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- seed
I'm curious if anyone here has taken judo? I just had my first class tonight. I am so out of shape that it was really strenuous. I can see that if I stayed with it that I would get stronger from head to toe though.
- nick0
when i was 6 in france for 1 class coz my teacher talked too fast
- meter0
yes, i took judo for a while about 5 years ago. i enjoyed it, although i have been doing jiu jitsu for the past few years instead.
judo has great throws and takedowns and it's a lot of fun. i personally prefer jiu jitsu, though, because i feel more comfortable on the ground than on my feet. jiu jitsu consists more of what are called newaza in judo (chokes and joint locks), while judo is more of a contest to see who can toss the other guy first (though some schools do more newaza than others).
it's also a little easier to get busted up in judo than jiu jitsu because you're getting tossed around a lot more, but maybe that's your cup of tea, i dunno.
if you're interested in self-defense, judo is ok (do an uchimata on someone on cement and you will fuck them up), although i think boxing or muay thai is better because it can be tough to execute a lot of the judo throws without a gi.
if your goal is just to have fun and get some exercise, i say go for it- judo is a blast. i recommend doing cardio work a few days a week on top of your judo, it will help your game a lot.
feel free to email me if you have any other questions. i'm not the world's biggest judo expert but i certainly know enough to answer any beginning questions.
- meter0
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- k0na_an0k0
JUDO CHOP!
*judo chop ala austin powers styleyeah baby.
- seed0
Thanks for the info. I may be sending you an email in the near future.
What style of Jui Jutsu are you doing?
I have read that for self defense it may be important to practice sometimes with no gi so that you dont rely on it.
I am also going to supplement Judo with a style with more striking and joint locks. I have a green belt in Shito-Ryu and a middle blue in a rare style called Korean Royal Court (Chung Do Mu Sool Won). That style has 100 very intricate joint locks going up to the black belt level and then more after that. I had moved before I advanced to far in either one but I am planning to go back up to visit a teacher near my old university to train in Chung Do further.
I enrolled my 2 little kids in Judo too and it looks like the most fun a kid could have. They learn by playing and having fun. The cool thing is the school is non profit and cost $15/m per family.
I see the need to practice cardio on you own too. I am going to train on my own so I can handle the class exercises better. I am sore all over today.
- meter0
i do mixed martial arts (like what you see in ultimate fighting championship or Pride), but brazilian jiu jitsu is a big part of what we do (no gi of course).
dont worry about learning 100 joint locks... just learn 3 or 4 really well- a couple good setups for triangle and armbar that you're really good at is all you need.
also like i said before, for self-defense good old fashioned boxing really can't be beat... it's also incredibley hard work so it will get you in shape fast!
- seed0
Good advice. I thought learning 100 joint locks was too much too. My friends used to joke like I'd be kicking you ass by the time you thought of what move to do. Later my teacher explained that the moves and how to manipulate someones joints become ingrained in muscle memory and you will probably never do one move completely but more of a combination for whatever the situation requires.
I may stay with that style as the rest of it is very fluid and seemingly effective.
Other than that there are a couple of cool Kung Fu schools in the area. The ones I am most interested in are Mantis and Shaolin Lohan. I would probably take Wing Chun if I could find it around here.
I think boxing would be great but the only school I found here seem to macho for me.
- seed0
I am interested in more of the philosophical aspects of certain arts. I just finished reading Ueshibas Art of Peace. Here is a interesting page on Judo and the Tao:
- Kirshar0
I'm also training in a little mixed martial arts, and agree with meter on the self-defense potential of boxing, blended with a healthy dose of ground fighting. Great workout too.
At the same time, martial arts like Kung Fu also appeal to me for their discipline and practices on energy focus
- seed0
Boxing seems good because that is how most westerners fight anyway only you would be many times more skilled at it. Coupled with ground fighting you would be bad arse.
- Hwa_Rang0
I'm a brown belt in Judo and have been doing for about 6 years. Although i havn't done much in the last 6 months. I've been recovering from over use injurires and havn't really felt like going back for more -- also I moved and I don't really like the way the club in town is run.
I agree Bjj is great. i have also done a lot of no gi training as well. Its just fun to learn different aspects on solving the same problems.
Regarding locks and chokes know they bigger locks like elbow, ankle, knee, a few wrist, and your different chokes are probably much more useful as the small joint manipulations as they are more theortical and can take a work to put on as the depend on certain situations.
Suplementing your training with other styles is cool too. Although I wouldn't really worry about it at the moment if you are just starting judo. Getting a good base in something first is a much better idea then doing a bunch of different things at once.
If you are looking for practicality kickboxing is the way too go. But if you have other interests and like what other styles have to offer that's cool to as long as you know what you are going in for. Just make sure you have your spam filters up. If they start spewing grabage like "We can show you how to kill a man, blah blah blah" just leave right away.
Let me know if you want to know anything about judo.
- fawn0
i want to learn muay thai, that would be sweet.
hey hwa_rang your name reminds me of like street fighter or tekken or something....
- vburo0
yeah, when i was about 6 or 7.. most parents would send their kids to judo back then..
didn't get further then the orange belt tho, always was sick when the exams where there..
- Hwa_Rang0
I think it was similar to someone in tekken. But it's not from there.
I'd like to do some more muay thai training.
- fawn0
yah huarang (sp?) was a skinny little dude in tekken, i hated him. he was one of those characters that really sucked and was hard to play but if you were fighting against someone who knew how to use him he was impossable to beat.
- ludawg0
That's great that you found a fun judo school, Seed. That's the most important thing. It makes a huge difference that you actually enjoy the school and the people who attend.
I did judo for 3 or 4 years and I loved it. It's definitely a good base to build other styles on. I never feel uncomfortable in a clinch situation, and I know how to control my balance.
Been doing brazilian jiu jitsu with Renato Magno (machado black belt) for a few years now, and it's pretty awesome.
- meter0
muay thai is great but you better be ready to work your fuckin ass off, they will work you like a dog. we have a muay thai program at my gym that i sometimes attend (just for the workout mostly). its pretty brutal, and i consider our program very easy, all things considered. it definitely helped me get in shape though, i've lost about 35 pounds in the last year and my cardio is ten times better. MT is no joke though, be prepared to get hit in the face a lot and to beat the shit out of your shins. it will hurt a lot, i'm not tough enough to do it on a regular basis.
however form MT i've learned to love the clinch... when i fight the first thing i do is close the distance, get them in the thai clinch and start throwing knees- most people have absolutely no idea what to do, and even the ones that do need to have pretty good composure once the knees and elbows start flying. from there i'll usually go for a judo-style hip toss, or maybe shoot for a double if they're shutting down my knees. then we're on the ground which is my strong point..
anyway i'm off topic but the point is stick with your judo and definitely run at the first sign of a "death touch" or other mcdojo crap.
- tomkat0
leah i would so-oo luv to challenge you in tekken.. :D
- fawn0
omg tomkat, i would kick your ass! i have never lost to anyone playing tekken, not unless i was too drunk to play
:)
- fawn0
wow meter, that just made me want to learn muay thai even more! except i am such a wimp! i could get over that though