Iraqi Elections
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- paraselene0
that's the saddest thing i think, lowimpakt. when the guy spearheading this whole thing is pretty much the devaluation of language personified, then knowledge and the desire to find it take a big hit as well. the idiotic tongue twisters that have colonised the media are very useful as a distraction from those very questions.
- mg330
For more than a week I've had a sick feeling that we're just going to see all hell break loose on Sunday.
The insurgents just walked into a guy's office this week and beheaded right then and there because he was working for one of the political groups.
And it is truly sad that for every one story like that the gets out, there are probably a dozen identical to it and worse.
- paraselene0
god, that's so true, mg. what a bunch of imagination-less freaks we're all becoming.
- unfittoprint0
"it's like a massive underground political rave and everyone's invited!"
exactly.
probably more of a rally paper with esoteric clues.
- k0na_an0k0
if we never got involved, and i mean we the united states, would it be better or worse there?
- ********0
mg33, we would be better off. Saddam hated Islamists....he had a godhead but not a nuclear warhead
- mg330
We need a time machine. What's not to say that sanctions would have eventually worked? We found NOTHING there in the way of bad weapons, true, he maybe could have made them.
But probably more Iraqis have died because of us in the last two years than would have died under Sadaam in the same time.
- vespa0
http://news.independent.co.uk/wo…
worse. no jobs, no fuel, and now no water. a much higher chance of dying a violent death than there was under Saddam.
"Iraqis expected after the fall of Saddam that their standard of living would improve. Instead they have seen their lives in most cases get worse. It is disappointment which partly fuels the uprising. Young men are desperate for jobs. It is as easy for the resistance to recruit men as it is for the police or army. For a year after the invasion Iraqis were patient but during this past winter they saw the electricity supply falling again to three or four hours a day. While Iraq is caught up in a permanent economic and social crisis it is difficult to believe that the political crisis will ever end."
- ********0
this is worse than vietnam...and, unlike Vietnam, media, advertising, pop culture has bred an ignorant, savage, bi-polar monster in terms of youth across the world...therefore, collective wisdom loses out in "real time". We will feel the true effects of this twisted military frat party later and longer. What deepens the mistake is that we already had a weak prototype to begin with (Afghanistan) and a strong criminal case (against Bin Laden)....we haven't even begun to finish. So, the anti-War movement doesn't take any real action and ignorance continues to breed the jaded masses....
- paraselene0
great link, vespa.
"Despite the supposed handover of power to an Iraqi interim government last year, Iraqis see the US as the controller of the government. Many of them this week referred to the election as "a movie" staged for the benefit of the outside world."
but then this is a whole different kind of movie:
"The taking of photographs of prisoners is only permitted in order to identify the captives. Contrast this with the soldiers who took the shocking pictures of a hooded man attached to electric cables standing on a box, the piles of naked bodies, and the simulated sex scenes."
bizarre fucking simulacra world. fuck.
- unfittoprint0
the only secular nation in the Middle East will soon become Afghanistan 2 [circa 1995].
good job.
- ********0
good quote
- mg330
The election accomplishes the same thing as the US government hopes to with privatizing Social Security:
Takes the blame off themselves, and places it on the people, should the result of their votes/actions bring failure.
To Iraq: "We let you choose your leaders, you're no better off so it's your fault for choosing bad leaders. Not ours."
If SS is privatized in US: "You citizens with no SS money because of bad investments, it's your fault for the bad choice. Not ours."
- ********0
"pop culture has bred an ignorant, savage, bi-polar monster in terms of youth across the world...therefore, collective wisdom loses out in "real time". "
dr_strangedub, today I am in complete agreement with you and take back my reather brash comments of yesterday. Please accept my sincere and humble apologies for getting personal.
I have an Iraqi/Scottish friend
he was saying just last weekend how much worse the plight of the average Iraqi has become and that he is unsure of ever being able to return to the country he was brought up in....
- mrdobolina0
//but saddam could attack the US in 45 minutes using unmanned drones spraying anthrax in Iowa like crop dusters.
//Let's not let the smoking gun be a mushroom cloud, you fucking hippies!!! ;)
- mg330
I don't think Sadaam had the ability to fly even a kite!
- ********0
hippies, FUCKEN HIPPIES??
DID SOMEONE SAY HIPPIES???
FONDUE THE HOOOOOORS!!!
- paraselene0
oh shit. i'm getting outta here. i've been called a hippy about seventeen times this week already (granted, by kuz, but still) and i'm cheese-phobic.
have a nice weekend!!!
*door slams
- ********0
mind that cauldron of boiling cheese para........
oops too late ;p
- ********0
ya don't wanna pay attention to what kuz sez ;)