michael jackson
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- ********0
no chip on my shoulder more like a brick or a bolder- jayz
- mrdobolina0
good night.
- ********0
yup- jayz
- zenfulbeauty0
The Ramsey's were just cleared of Jon Benet's murder very recently.
- zenfulbeauty0
if you want to talk OJ...there was more guilty evidence on OJ than there was on Scott Peterson, yet OJ went free and Peterson was sentenced to death. Not a very good argument.
- -leah-0
son you need to stop playing the victim card
- imakedesign0
yeah son, stop hi-jacking threads with rascism.
- ********0
leah you try to call me out on some bullshit money issue, and havent said shit since
and i feel as tho the "King of Pop" has been a victim of a racist act.
you dont respect it, well who gives a fuck, you havent proven him wrong at all...
scott peterson is an idiot
- ********0
bottom line is
THERE IS NO EVIDENCE.
it shouldnt even be a discussion, no one has any evidence.
- mrdobolina0
let the court decide, son.
if he were a rich white dude it would be the same fucking way.
- ********0
yea right
- mrdobolina0
or they could just let him off because he is black.
- ********0
he shouldnt be on in the first place
i'm sick of people that think oppression for black people is over.
- mrdobolina0
so blacks are incapable of committing crimes then?
- forcetwelve0
a good case to revisit ye olde "swimming in concrete boots" experiment...
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what a cockup
- johndiggity0
so is michael jackson entitled to reparations?
- anzelina0
here are my two cents:
i did some research on thesmokinggun.com. as it turns out, they are owned by court tv, and they in turn are owned by aol time warner.
http://thesmokinggun.com/about.h…
i think it's safe to say that most people who post on nt are skeptical of mass media, especially time warner [ i certainly am ]. regardless of racial, class, or gender issues, these large media companies are infamous for skewing news stories to further their own growth, or to prevent the public from knowledge that could hinder their growth. i don't doubt that the 'exposing' of michael jackson's story as posted on thesmokinggun.com and other news sites owned by time warner aren't tremendously biased.
it's also true that michael jackson is signed to epic records, a sub-label of sony records. sony and time-warner are rivals. it seems likely that time-warner is trying to halt sales of michael's cds. considering he sells so many, if even a percentage of people stopped buying them, it would mean losses for sony.
that said, i still believe michael jackson to be guilty of sexual misconduct at least to some degree. although there is no 'hard' evidence such as video tapes, there are countless testimonies against him. i am not saying he actually had sex with the boys, although i wouldn't doubt it. the fact is that even just the things he's said to the boys constitutes sexual abuse.
michael is clearly living in a fantasy world. whether this be due to immense fame or not does not negate the fact that he cannot recognize the boundaries between fantasy and reality. c'mon, he lives in neverland. and remember when he dangled his child over the balcony? clearly he is deranged.
son, i hope you realize that this forum is the furthest place that you could find from those who blindly accept mass media. we are all individuals who think for ourselves, and are the first to question what is fed to us.
nevertheless i think it's obvious that jacko is a nutjob and he has crossed the boundary of acceptable behaviour with minor boys.
- johndiggity0
"this is all based on the testimony from previously sealed grand jury documents. so, it's not as much about "the media". if even half of it is true...
johndiggity(Jan 7 05, 08:31)"
- exador10
one thing to remember though, is that all of this...all of it hinges on the testimony of some boys that are clearly being used by their mother for financial gain...her history for this sort of thing has been well documented..
she's after money..plain and simple.on the other hand, that doesn't explain some rather freaky ass things michael has done, and it certainly doesn't explain any previous or other ongoing questions into his conduct with small boys...
my 2 cents is this...
despite everything, i'm not quite ready to see michael twist in the wind unless he's proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to be guilty..
and if he's found innocent..truly innocent, then i hope they absolutely destroy that lady for what she's putting michael through....but..
if he is as fucked up as it looks he may be, i'm afraid all the platinum albums and breakthrough videos he's done won't be enough to save his wacky ass
if he's guilty, we're all witness to what can happen when one has too much money, too much power and no one to say no to him.
but if he's innocent...
we're all witness to the most blatant and horrible character assasination ever mounted against one individual.can you imagine?
what if it's all total bullshit..
this poor bastard will spend the rest of his days with this over his head....no one will ever think of his name again without that hanging over his head...guess we'll all find out about it sooner or later..
just remember to look objectively..
aside from a few nudey magazines ( which of most of us have owned atleast once in our lives) i haven't seen anything damning of him yet....
just the testimony of the boys...
which, as far as i can tell is exactly what their mother wants them to say....we'll see.
but man..if that cat really did it, he's gonna be fucked when he gets to jail...
- ********0
when someone tells you something like that above me, you dont witness it.
please do not tell me, when there are displays of this in everyday regular life, for blacks! every fuckin day. but when someone tells you, its the media, because you get it from the media. you are not near the residence, where you can see it for yourself, so the media, thats newspapers too, has showed you. you heard it throught the media, time warner 95%, MEDIA.
i almost cry when they do this to michael.
innocence is bliss, and we're are plain ignorant in their view.
the saddest thing is that, none of you know him, none of you, but instead you let them sway you, its nothing anyone could ever say to you because brainwashing makes me sound like blah blah blah, and its honestly funny. i'm not a racist at all, but i do see the things that white men, and excuse me if this sounds racist, but where i live, the upper hand, is whate men, sorry if i sound sexist too, and here, in Delaware, racism is fuckin blatant, unless, you're brainwashed. and when you feel that, first hand, you start to see, how they see, tupac, kobe, oj, luke! um, LL, ect.
all made to be pig's, male pigs, mi·sog·y·nist [yes i just looked up the word] whatever whatever, they hate us.
you have to understand your generation too, like in europe, they have very long family's, i was watching surreal life, and the lady was talkin bout flava flav, and she called him 'the little soul brother' but it was in regular conversation, of her describing him. thats that pickininny shit.
and yes, that is a big part of my life now, acknowledging that, because my people and me feel it, daily.
i respect all of your opinions, although i dont believe they have any value because you are not in the position's to know anything.
just like i cant say he did or didnt do it, and i personally believe he didnt do it, but you dont go around saying, he did it, if you have no fact's that he did.
please people, i will say this time and time again, do not believe everything you hear, see or read, you people know what they can do w/ computers, believe yourself, because i believe in a revolution beyond big brother, a government overthrow, and then again, maybe i'm in a century different then yours.
but how do you think Time Warner is gonna be, if you dont have asians, hispanics, or native americans, on every other channel, making media straight up equal visual.
it wont happen, so in the mean time see it for what it is,
media or http://thesaurus.reference.com/s…
one.
ps. i'll be doing this in all my music, cause i live in hiphop culture, the most oppressed culture of them all, which now makes everybody fuckin rich