I hate Firefox
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- jevad0
"I was able to get it working by changing to a non-xhtml doctype"
me too
- toastie0
what's wrong with using table layouts formatted with CSS styles?
- doggy0
CSS is the new pink.
- sparker0
i like how people blame the software for programmatic short-comings.
that's like blaming the hammer after you hit your hand with it.
- toastie0
pink is a terrible color.
- gabriel20
toastie, please don't start another css vs. tables layout debate in a technical question thread...
- toastie0
i didn't know there were others. is it like, mac vs. pc? cause i like PCs. Just let me know if you wanna know why.
- monkeyshine0
I used
[!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loos......and I'll be the first one to admit my programmatic shortcomings. :)
- sparker0
"what's wrong with using table layouts formatted with CSS styles?"
they don't work properly in devices and displays other than specific browsers for one thing.
second, that isn't what a table was created for. table. tabular data.
they don't render correctly for screen readers, or other 'accessiblility' utiities.
they don't work when building web based applications...or when incorporated into web based applications...such as programs built with xul, php, etc.
you can triple your code weight when using languages like php and perl by using tables...if you're not careful - and most designers aren't.
the list goes on and on.
use them if you want...but it IS incorrect implementation of HTML/XHTML.
- toastie0
sparker, not to be stubborn, but i'll have to disagree with you on pretty much everything you've said.
For one, CSS rendering varies WAY more across browsers than table rendering. In fact, most crossbrowser compatibility seems to involve CSS hacks.
As far as accessibility, CSS is completely anti-accessibility, because CSS-formatted text is not resizeable in most browsers.
As for server side apps, as a php developer, I'm not quite sure what they have to do with tables.
- sparker0
i'm confused.
your doctype is:
[!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD...
and you're using an namespace:
[html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xh...
am i missing something?
- sparker0
true, proper xhtml layout exists seperate from css.
css has no impact on any of those things.
tables vs css is like comparing apples and cars.
it is proper xhtml vs tables that is really the issue.
- monkeyshine0
sorry...here's what I'm working with right now.
- toastie0
what's "proper" anyway? W3C standards? Or existing browsers that don't comply with W3C guidelines? *coughexplorercough*
- DutchBoy0
monkeyshine, i just checked your source and you need to close your tags with "/" and "right bracket" (nt won't show it here)..
all your other tags in the head are closed that way except for javascript link and css link...
try it..
- DutchBoy0
and btw. no need to change the doctype at all, i have never had problems with this, firefox handles my css better then any other browser out there.
i luv it!
- gabriel20
in theory you shouldn't have to change the doctype, the fact that changing it to quirks mode makes your pages work means that there's something else wrong with the page. this is just the quick and easy solution...
- DutchBoy0
i guess i was right:
- DutchBoy0
*bump for monkeyshine
can't believe noone found this after so many posts.