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- tfsmag0
some of us don't require others to motivate us to do things :p
- kezza_20
STAY WITH THE JOB THAT GIVES YOU THE BEST PORTFOLIO.
damn caps
- tfsmag0
plus how do you know how it will be at this other place? I think designers that design for the web will do well working around programmers. The more you know about all the little things that go into web design, the better designer/programmer you will be. I can see that because as i said, i've worn both hats.
- Peter0
I suggested that you could learn anywhere you are, and I get Dutchboys disapproval.
Tfsmag says the same thing (but far more elegantly than me), then Dutchboy approves.
To summarize:
If I weren't so "russian" with my english I might have made myself understood in the first place. So beware of getting to intimate with the russians if you'd start to work at that place.There, how could anyone disapprove of that!
- Peter0
* didn't note the irony
Ignore my last post please.
- derek30
what would trump do?
- derek30
now thats a tshirt idea
- kStyle0
canuck - i am recently out of school and took the higher paying 'not-so-fun' design job. I think take the job if the $ are important to you. But know once you take the job for money, its gonna start always being about the money. I hate the bland, uncreative shit I have to do at work - but taking a job at a more creative company at this point would mean less $$. . .and it would be real hard to go back to that. . .
- tfsmag0
hahahahaha
don't listen to the guys that have never been in the programmer/developer's shoes.
trust me, if you know a thing or three about EVERY part of the process in web design it will only HELP your portfolio.. not hurt it.
- winter0
take it easy dude. you can't regret not having made a dubious change after 2 months... i am unhappy at work for 6 years now and 'tis only now that my hidden terrorist is starting to come out.
- canuck0
Well I have a 3 month review coming up a my current company soon I may push for a meeting a bit early. They did say they would renegoitate salary when I was hired. hmmm.
I figured most of you guys would suggest I stay. probably the best choice for now.
- toastie0
i'm a russian coder nerd and i say, go with the nerds! (my opinion may be biased)
- coalcracker0
"Or do I try to do some negotiating. fuck I suck at this stuff I need like a manager or some shit."
And you claim that the Russians speak terrible English...
- erok0
It's not about the $ my friend...
If you are good $ will come..
:-)
_erok
- airey0
"some people don't require others to motivat them..." wtf!
man, stay where you can get advice and experience taught to you and advance your skillsets. the cash will come later.
there's every possibility that at the moment you're not that good (i'm not very good so i'm not being negative here) and need to learn more.
better to tread slowly now and take off later. you could go off and get the cash, do shite work, learn fuck all and find that the 15k extra is as good as it gets for years because your older (therefore more expensive to hire - normally) and no one wants to bother with you.
just a few thoughts to tack on the rest of em. everone is different so do what will make your lifestyle better now. maybe the cash is more important vs. being a better designer?
best of luck.
- derek30
i would negotiate with your current employer...
but.. you have only been with them for 2 months... hmm
- derek30
dont just go for the cash.. youll hate the job later...
- canuck0
I'm thinking that. There would be a shit load of responsibility at the new job since I would be the sole in house desinger. Yet with the place I am at right now I work with an art director, and another designer. so it's a good learning environment.
yet the money is very tempting when I owe 20k in student debt.
- manila-gorilla0
dont just go for the cash.. youll hate the job later...
derek3
(oct 26 04, 15:33)i agree.. 15k sounds like a lot more but really though, you've been at your current for only 2 months, if you kick ass, i doubt you'll worry about low over the next year or so
- MrDinky0
Canuck
you should ask the Dinky his wise advice