billboard project
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- DesignThis
Critiques of the page and project would be cherished.
- kld0
what does 'occasional work' mean? Is that like holiday cards or something : D
- k0na_an0k0
Being from the burbs of Chicago, I know that exact spot. My only fear is that most people won't get it. It's really general and the site doesn't really give away much ya know.
Can't wait to see it. Let me know when its up. October right?!?
- DesignThis0
Yeah. I only do shows that have a holiday theme.
- DesignThis0
I'm not afraid of those people who won't get it. I'm afraid of them not seeing it.
I was wrestling with the desire to keep the interpretation open. I only posted the Statement and Bio last minute yesterday.
- kld0
just playing around. I agree with kona that it seems too vague. While some people might stop to think about it, most will scratch their head and move on.
Maybe the site needs to be like a payoff to someone who sees the billboard and goes the distance to find out what it's all about.
- DesignThis0
But how far should I explain it? I don't want to come off too preachy. What question should I answer on the site?
- ********0
your artist statement seems kind of thin?
- ********0
and by thin i mean vague.. (sorry i used the wrong word in the first place).. am very tired over here
- kld0
The more I think about it the term 'make no mistake' reads as a very patriotic statement. sorta like 'these colors don't run' or ' open for business' especially with the flag in the background.
i don't know if this is the feedback your looking for but that's how I'm reading it.
Unfortunately I personally feel that the U.S. has already made some dire mistakes(I know, political thread please)
I would be more inclined to see 'stop making mistakes' but you probably don't want to be so opinionated in your project.
just my thoughts...
- DesignThis0
Hmmm. How far to go with the ideology? I'll have to comb through my notes and come up with the "money shot."
What should I consider for the revision? This piece is really more intuitive and spontaneous than calculated. I don't want to tie it down with rhetoric.
- kld0
if the intent is to make people think more about their actions then say it on the site. Make it clear that acting w/o thinking is something people have a responsiblity to do. once again I'm searching here... i don't know what your slant is.
- DesignThis0
kid: that's the kind of feedback I'm looking for. I DO want to keep my intention on a 'thin' satirical line. I want the satirical qualities to be recognized by those in the right mindset, and not recognized by those who are of the opposite.
Opinion aside, the more you dwell on the vagueness of the expression, the happier I am. That's what I enjoy... the malleability of language.
I'm going to post some of my other relevant work on another site to give people a better idea of where I'm coming from. I think that will help clarify my intention.
- kld0
boy, I gotta change my screen name... anyways, good luck with the project
- rasko40
the graphic looks kinda cheesy, like an actual candidate graphic which I guess is intentional but it doesn't particularly make me think, nor does it geneerate any real interest as there is really nothing to debate or be stimulated by. I think it seems really to be sitting on the fence too much in an apathetic, almost apologetic nothingness.
I actually feel that it is a waste of what could be an opportunity to really say something.
Barbara Kruger, Ron English, Jenny Holzer, and even more 'fashionable' people like Shep Fairey do this so much better, I think you need to take a stance on something or else you are really just giving in and playing the game by the rules.
- DesignThis0
"to make people think more about their actions"
right on... but not really that... it's more to think about the language that is used to influence their actions. That's rather abstract, I know, but that's something for the essay archives when I'm 20 years older. I haven't earned the credibility to tell people to think before they act. I just have the credit (sic) to make a billboard that will tell them. ;)
- DesignThis0
Thanks for the feedback kid! And don't mess with the name!
- kld0
well if its about language then i think it needs some more info like a subtext with a call to action like 'think about what they're telling you' they being the media, politician, other...
- DesignThis0
rasko4:
Yeah, there's a lot of wasted opportunity to say things here in the States, but that's not my job. I'll leave that to the people who have something to say.I was toying with making it even more cheesey, but I didn't want to create a TOTAL eyesore. Again, I'll have to post my other work to position myself better.
I think this is taking a stance, even if it is an apathetic one. Sitting on the fence is the best way to see both sides, and perhaps bring them closer together.
Healthy crit - very much appreciated.
- DesignThis0
kLd... sorry about the name...
But yeah, would a call to action really do anything except preach to the choir? There are all these PSA campaigns about registering to vote and paying attention to political affairs that I think its well enough covered.
I had another line in the statement (or should I say disclaimer) that this isn't intended as a PSA. Maybe I should reinstate it.
- rasko40
hmm well, if this is an 'art' project and you are an 'artist' then perhaps it is your 'job'.
I almost see what you mean about 'sitting on the fence' but I just think the fence should be more of a tightrope, while perhaps you dont want to appear to be telling people how or what to think, there can be ways of raising a subject in an unbiased manner which does stimulate thought and perhaps allows people to have some clarity on issues through their own thought process. this technique has the benefit of being open to more subliminal messaging and while perhaps the goal achieved is actually of your construction, the means of attaining it has been generated through the viewers own mind and therfore they pat themselves on the back for being so clever to have 'come up with it themselves and are less hostile to the piece because it isn't patronising them or ramming things down their throat.
good luck with it :)