NAZI ITEMS
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- ********0
I'm afraid what Nazism represents is so completely different to the Roman empire. Despite the horrors of Rome and China, and the Mongols and whoever else - they are in no way comparable to the industrialised human extermination machine that was Nazism.It's Enlightenment philosophy gone wrong. The complete perversion of Modernism. Beyond precedent.
- DutchBoy0
i don't think it's as different in the very meaning of 'ethnic cleansing'
it's the horrific industrialised way of the Nazi's to kill millions of innocent people that makes it more repulsive to us.
And i wonder how people will look at it in about 1000 years from now. If we still exist..
- ********0
That's sad to hear Dutchboy. I dont think these people fully understand what Nazism was. Watered down camp characters they've seen on Allo Allo, or some WW2 movie. They think Nazism was essentially harmless and just another army like Napoleans that tried to conquer Europe. They should all wathc this film
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091…
The true nature of Nazism goes beyond simple Nationalism. It's a whole philosophy based on Social Darwinist theory, Nietzchean philsoophy, and Modernist thinking. Rome was an imperial power house. Nazism was the purification of the human race based on pseudo-science. It was the perversion of everything humanity had achieved in learning, understnading, science and technology. It was something else altogether. People should remember that before they stare comparing it to Rome. The United States is Rome. Nazism, fuck, so baaaaaad, we can't even entertain the thought that this could become banal. And it is still with us. We can't drop our guard.
- unfittoprint0
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- DutchBoy0
I see your point, Kuz.
Historically seen it might be that in philospophy Nazism was indeed a perversion of humans achievements and racial superiority.
I still think the Greek and the Romans had also a certain sense of superiority in science and literature and what not, and that anyone and everything else therefore was inferior and could be treated like dirt.
i might wanna read more into that, though.
- shaft0
I live in Wroclaw, a former German city. It's very seldom and always kind of spooky to see svastikas here. These are pics from a monthly collectables market:
http://eryk.art.pl/starocie/
I am sure the Leica is a Russian 'version', I guess forks are fake too. I don't understand people's need to have this kind of stuff at home. Nazi branding was marvelous, actualy that was one of the reasons of their popularity. However, the brand sticks to nazi dark legacy too strong to be reused without disgust.
- rasko40
the Leica is dope, I dont think I could ever eat with Nazi cutlery though :/
- DutchBoy0
my god, shaft.
- ********0
Yeah Dutchy. I mean you're right, ethnic cleansing is ethnic cleansing, is ethnic cleansing. And it has happened since the dawn of man. ethnic cleansing is the most basic human trait - dehumanisation of the other.
But the way the Nazi's transformed theirs societies so throughly, from new-born babies to granny's to every single aspect of their world, and every single social practice. That has never happened before. But that's what fascism is. You can be involved in ethnic cleansing without being a fascist. For much of their histories Greek and Rome were pseudo-democracies.
- wendell0
yes this is way a round some things i am seeing a lot on partys. (in (secret) as in germany it is forbod to take it out! i know the chief of me has a helmen and many wapen . i remember the farm of my grandfather at the sale after his death-american(3) for circa:43,500 old Deutsche mark(up at a round 22000 éuro for tracht belt/ and a halfter?for hold the pistol. flasks a three tagbooks!! i not so horny about that. the grandfather of me is jewish and the father of me
- DutchBoy0
http://www.unsolvedmysteries.com…
"In provinces where Roman rule was accepted, running water was somewhat commonplace while in nearly all of the other areas it might as well have been science fiction. "
hmm... but the Nazi's sort of invented the modern highways and the affordable 'Volkswagen', car for the people.
- wendell0
sorry for that not so-oo much right scripting there i think that.
- DutchBoy0
"scism arises in Italy in 1919 and then in Germany in the mid-1920s. As a political ideology, fascism exalts the “nation”, the “state” and the “people” (terms which become in effect interchangeable) as the embodiments of the collective will, and proposes to restore the nation to a condition of former, implicity genetic, glory. In Italy, Mussolini sought a return to the glories of the Roman Empire; in Germany, Hitler sought to purify the Aryan Volk; in Japan (in the Showa period, 1926-45), the military elite around Emperor Hirohito advocated a return to Shintoism and the warrior class, the samurai. Since the fascist party incarnates the good of all, under a fascist government it becomes unlawful to consider any kind of social relationship or national future outside the interpretation of the national interest by the party, which in turn is seen as the incarnation of the state’s will. Anything less than total obedience is treason."
i think indeed there's too many ties to the ancient empires to ignore this fact in the light of 'fascism'.
- ********0
Dutchyboy, those ties are more aesthetic than anything.
There is NO WAY Mussolini could (or even attempted to) recreate Roman society in 1920/30s Italy.He was drawn to the aesthetics of military glory, monumental excess, and the arrogant pride of the conqueror.
[NB You can draw links to fascism from the very idea of Nationhood - since fascism is an extreme extrapolation of what it is to belong to a Country - an invisible community]
- ********0
Also, fascism is not just a perversion of science - it's a perversion of history itself. A rewriting of ancient history as evidence for their own nations/people manifest destiny. That's why Hitler was fascinate by archaeology (cue Indiana Jones movies). It's a false history that they construct from the Ancient world
- ********0
Propaganda
- donal0
i used to have a skeletor figure, but didn't nessacerily agree with the shit he tried to do to he-man
- ********0
collect something more useful, like knowledge...let go