NAZI ITEMS
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- blackspade0
v tru rasko, v tru
- buddylee0
Come on now....I'd collect American artifacts, but lets not forget what they did to the Native Americans...
- brandelec0
steveii you pedofile you!
- kpl0
it's been a while since the last time carlos trolled pvn.
you suckas.
- Mimio0
People shouldn't take ownership of Nazi artifacts and profit from their marketability... those items belong in museums.
- aliendn0
if y'all ever pop by india, dont freak out when you see swatikas, lots of them there(the original ones), shame symbolism can be corrupted.
- -sputnik-0
my grandfather had a few nazi items which he acquired after he was freed from a kriegs marine forced labour camp.
i don't even know if those things are still around :\
- -sputnik-0
true, aliendn...i have an old chinese jade pendant with a swastika in the middle...it faces the opposite direction and twirls around.
its a beautiful piece but i just can't wear it :(
- slag_you_off0
I have a few bits of Nazi items (well our family has) from my Grandad when he was in Berlin with the english forces at the end of the war.
all propoganda stuff like pamflets and text books from schools. He was a teacher and went to a school and picked up a load of Nazi school books. Creepy shit.
They are in the War Museum in Preston Lancs if anyone is close
He collected loads of other shit too like the leaflets the germans dropped on Dunkirk telling them they were surrounded etc.
- raybolger20
man-this is some fucked up shit-I probably just 5 points on the FBI scorecard reading this tripe...
fuck nazi bullshit-
- DutchBoy0
Come on now....I'd collect American artifacts, but lets not forget what they did to the Native Americans...
buddylee
(aug 23 04, 15:08)-----------------
true.
- DutchBoy0
my father got an impressive old aerial-camera from WWII.
it was only on second sight i saw the swastika on some seal that was attached to it.
i believe it was 'stolen' from a crashed nazi-plane by the allies..
- raybolger20
I don't know man-I probably wouldn't collect Klu Klux Klan Garb-it's just what it implies
-I don't have anything against Germans too- I'm going there in two weeks!
yaaaay
- slice0
My wife, the german-nationial, gets really offended when we see somebody selling that stuff @ the flea market . Never mind that she works for a large holocaust organization. I can see the schism clearly. I get the fascination, and I get her point. (I have more holocaust literature in my home than anyone.) She can't separate the fascination from the crime.
Its like when I see the confederate flag - THAT sh*t makes me crazy.
- slag_you_off0
As time goes by it will become more and more acceptable to talk about Nazism.
At the end of the day we study the Raj wars, the death of 40 million indians in South America or Napolean
In time it will be consigned to same history as all other evil stuff in the past. And people will recreate battles, fly flags collect memrobilia.
Personally I dont see a problem with it. The day isnt far away where no one will be alive who lived in that war, and then I think things will change.
- _snov0
stop pushing that nazi theme on
it sucks
- DutchBoy0
i have great sympathy for those who feel offended by it.
and in feel we should never ignore these terrible chapters in history in our future teachings.
having that said, there is also this fascination and admiration for the Roman empire, even a lot of architecture (esp. in the US, see White House etc) that is inspired by the ancient 'civilization'. Bear in mind the Romans did horrible things to people that did not want to obey to their imperialistic dictatorship.
i am afraid it is only a matter of time. but believe me, whenever i have kids, i'll be sure to tell them about it.
- hooked0
i kind of thought stevi's child porn analogy was quite apposite actually. the appeal of nazi memoriablia is as substantiation of atrocities committed. people fetishise this shit, sexually or not, because of th taboo element. you can't engineer a commercial exchange for personal ownership without some degree (however slight in this case) of culpability. like mimio says, leave it for the museums.
- ********0
I got a whole buncha stuff if ur interested. Me an my crew meet up on weekends and recreate Hitler's speeches, and nuremburgh rally etc. I got all the Swastikas, flags, helmets, replica lugers, boot, full uniforms. Got a bunch of Mein Kampf's sitting on my bookshelf. Your totally right slag_you_off about how in time we'll be recreating Nazi battles. Why just the other weekend me and my chums drove around the Jewish neighbourhood smashing Kosher butcher windows, throwing pig meat in their faces, Just ya know trying to recreate crystal nacht. My buddy Hans tried to round them up to burn them in our make-shift gas chamber - only pretend like, but someone called the police so we had to move on. Anyway, it was all cool, we found some black kid on his own and beat the fuck out of him. Then we goose-stepped all the way back home, drunk lots of beers, and shouted zeig-hail at pakis. All in good fun! Next week we're gonna recreate the invasion of Poland, and the mass extermination of the slavic people. But only after we've euthenised all the disabled and mentally handicapped people. Only pretend like.
- DutchBoy0
Kuz, that is already happening. I saw an extensive documentary about this just a few days ago. Just regular people playing nazi's AND allie's and battling each other, taking care of even the smallest details like buttons in uniforms, attitude and wht not. They also had these memorabilia markets selling original and replica stuff from WWII. A lot, and i mean, A LOT, of money was made with original Nazi material. That, this shameful commercial exploit, is what shocked me the most.