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- DutchBoy
ok, so this is not for me but for one of my bestest friends..
here's the deal.. she's a model and she's done tons of shoots for various clothing(and other brands) in the past, she always gets to sign a 'model release form' (?) in which she AND the client (agency, and other parties) agree on the usage of the pictures.
In most cases these photographs may only be used in stores and billboards for a limited period of time (eg. the running time of the campaign)..
so there's a wellknown lingerie-store not far from here and they used to recycly old billboards in their windows and i notified her about this as she was on one of them.. she told me that's illegal and she could claim money for it via her agency Elite.
Then when i wanted to go back to take a pic it was gone already, but now it is back up again!
but now i wonder.. how can you really prove this? will a picture be enough?
she just called me and said she was on the way to her agency as she had to be there to prepare for a hilfiger shoot, so i told her to ask abotu this..
i want to help her as she has helped me get a lot of contacts and clients in the past but i have zero experience with cases like these...
thanks in advance...
- rasko40
in star trek they took photos with the days newspaper in the forgeground. but you know James T Kirk and those green hotties!!
- ozhanlion0
if you are sure it is illegal, you can find some notary public (in my country anyway) just like you have patterned an invention you can patterned that they used it illegally?
- ********0
I think first off, this model friend of yours needs legal representation.
- DutchBoy0
hahaha, yeah, that's an old trick but it might actually work..lol!
- bulletfactory0
i have a good friend that's "a model" too, but we don't talk about work or anything like that, we just bang all the time.
ha
- DutchBoy0
well, her legal assistance is coming from the agency.. as i said she's going to ask there but i wonder if i should take a pic before they take it down again..
- rasko40
She's a model and she's looking good
I'd like to take her to my place
She's working coolly, she won't be touched by anyone
Though, before the camera she shows what she can do
In the night club she's drinking only Champagne
And has checked out every man
In the floodlight her young smiles glitter
She's looking good, and beauty will be paid
She exposes herself for consumer products
And is being seen by millions of eyes
Her new cover is simply gorgeous
I must see her again, I know she's made it
- DutchBoy0
grr gnn.. you only all think about taking it to the water as in sex with chiefs maiden gnn grr!! i think that!
- DutchBoy0
seriously now, all sexual comments aside..
has anyone got any experience with this sort of matter? how to gather evidence and stuff..
- with-a-t0
the only thing you can do is take a picture/record it. having the date shown is a good idea - if the date is a dispute later. but the main prob is that theyre using the image without permission? The agency will check the model release form to see what rights the photographer/organisation included in it. Usually models get shit on with this sort of thing
- bulletfactory0
I have no experience with anything like that, but it seems as though your friend might be able to blow the wistle on the lingrie store, get her agency involved, and "put it to 'em"
the newspaper in the pic to show the date isn't bad, but people could say it was a fake. anything around the store that could get into the shot that shows a date? another billboard, sale dates, etc?
i'm absolutely no help
- DutchBoy0
cheers guys..
i'll take the pic and involve a date somehow..
or maybe a witness... as i know the owners of the bar on the opposite..
- rasko40
I'm sure the billboard co. will have details of what is up there when..
- with-a-t0
agreed. All you can do is take a picture to show it was there/they were using it to advertise.
- ********0
well, her legal assistance is coming from the agency...
DutchBoy
(jul 27 04, 06:03)that's sounds shady 2 me
- bulletfactory0
before i was on a record label, we used to mail ourselves demos/eps/etc we had just recorded so that the post office would stamp a govt. post mark on it proving that it was completed at least before the stamped date. if there was a dispute, you could then take it to court, open the letter, and have SOME proof anyway.
we called it the "poor man's copyright"
- DutchBoy0
"that's sounds shady 2 me"
why is that shady?
it's the way it works, her agency is there to take care of these sort of things and i expect they will do so as they make tons of money on their employees (the models)..
- ********0
The more hands in the way of what you want, the messier it is. She needs her own legal representation and contracts, etc. Otherwise middleman after middleman, IMO.
- DutchBoy0
nice one, bullet!
- DutchBoy0
i see your point jazx.. but i think the case isn't as certain and big enough to have her own legal assistance.. if she -somehow- doe snot win the case she'll lose a lot of money in paying the lawyer..
and btw. this is not America..