The Corporation
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- fingercore
Anyone else see this? I saw it last night at the Film Forum here in NYC and I thought it was phenomenal. Better than Fahrenheit 9/11 and I thought Michael Moore's role in this (albeit small) was better than in his own movies. It also doesn't hurt that Noam Chomsky, Milton Friedman, and Howard Zinn (amongst others) were in this film to help shed some light on the topic.
- Soler0
Saw the trailer on iTunes.. looks great
- -leah-0
i saw it a month ago (?) i really liked it! i liked that michael moore explained how he found a loophole in the system where producing companies give him money to make movies that trash talk them and their sponsors! that was good times. the movie seemed really long though. worth seeing for sure
- Kuz0
It was playing all over toronto when i was over there, isn't it about how if u judge corporations by psychiatric standards - they are sociopaths or something? Sounds kinda suspicious to me...
- k0na_an0k0
saw the trailer. it's looks good to me too.
- pr20
dude, if yiu even dealt witha ny of credit card companies like say, Capital One, you know that thei scountry supports legalised thieves. And you don't need some documentary telling you that.
- Mimio0
I'm fascinated by Noam Chomsky , can't wait to see it.
You guys might also find this interesting:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0391…
- fingercore0
Actually, their point about comparing corporations with psychopaths is pretty logical.
The first part of the movie dealt with how corporations, under the 14th amendment, are entitled to the same rights as people.--which ,in itself is entirely absurd considering the amendment was created to give equal rights to blacks.
If corporations are entitled to the same rights as humans, its only fair that they are treated as such--which means that they can be psychoanalyzed. In the movie, they showed how they met all the criteria of that of psychopaths--disregard for the well being of others, inability to admit guilt, etc.
- Kuz0
I get the satrical point comparing them to psychopaths. I'm sure it's a highly amusing and very informative documentary.
- fingercore0
In the movie, they made the point in a satirical manner, but ultimately, they were definitely making a serious connection.
- Kuz0
U cant possibly make a serious connection. thats just stupid. How can u? Well unless u over simplify definitions.
- heavyarms0
That looks good. This looks interesting also:
- fingercore0
A person who lacks constraint when satisfying oneself monetarily or whatever is regarded as a psychopath. This person doesn't consider moral consequences, other people's well-being, fails to accept responsibility for their actions, is irresponsible, etc. If these examples are extreme enough, the person is probably considered a psychopath (or sociopath).
Well, a corporation satisfies itself with profits. This is by definition. If it does so in lieu of other people's well-being--ie, slave-labor, environment destruction, harmful and cancerous products, etc, then why can't they be regarded on the same level as an individual who engages in these activities? The 14th amemdment provides them with the same rights as people, so why not diagnose them as such?!?
Yes, the world is complex. But I don't see how this is oversimplifying matters. That to me seems like a bullshit copout to excuse corporations' actions.
- heavyarms0
Are there any other documentaries or movies that deal with real issues out at the moment beside this and F911?
- Mimio0
See the movie "Control Room".
- nick0
great flick. two thumbs up!
- heavyarms0
Very good points BTW.
- adazpay0
Yeah, the psycho/sociopath theme is silly. I mean, it may or may not be appropriate, but it's not relevant. Dealing with corporations every day reveals that to us, like pr2 says.
The movie should be watched because of two things: the history and "geneology" of the corporation (the 14th amendment connection is interesting, as well as the litany of legislation since the 19th c. paving the way for contemporary corp.) and just to listen to the reborn Interface CEO Ray Anderson. That guy is effing awesome. His metered revelations about his experience starting and running a HUGE corp. brings such a valuable insight to the whole thing.
Everyone can complain, everyone can yell and whatnot, but this guy's perspective yields a solution, and that's the most important thing. We don't know if he's going to follow through or remain sincere about it, but he's trying, and that's just cool to see...
Also the nihilist options trader who has no problem buying gold days after the attacks ... awesome.
It is kinda long, too.
- schedule20
I want to see that movie so bad but it's only playing in 8 theaters around the country. It's not even in LA! Anybody know what the deal is?
btw- Control Room is a fantastic movie! I highly recommend it to anyone.
- fingercore0
According to the film's website, the movie will be opening in LA on the 9th.