Nike vs. Apple
- Started
- Last post
- 79 Responses
- mrdobolina0
what country are you from originally brandelec?
- lowimpakt0
Brandelec, your missing the point about child labour. Why do kids in my country get to go to school etc. Because their parents are paid sufficiently to support them and place them into education. Why don't these companies extend those principle to their workersetc. etc.
- fingercore0
So Brandelec, so because these people have virtually no other options, does that mean that Nike and other companies should be allowed to exploit them? Shouldn't they be forced to pay them a fair wage--not just one that is "better" than what they could be making.
These shoes sell for 100+ USD. They cost mere pennies to make. Why shouldn't they see that money?!?
- brandelec0
i'm from the philippines mr dob, the ghetto capital of the world.
its not easy for a lot of these people to live, in a perfect world, these companies would extend those priniciples lowimakt, i pray to god that they should, and they try, but there are way too many factors in this problem. one major problem is overpopulation, plus there's a generation of uneducated adults that are parents. its a world of shit and corruption out there and its too easy to say that our way of living should be their way of living, which truly it should. i agree with you guys on that
- lowimpakt0
Nike support the development of production fragmentation. Outsource and contract out production to the lowest bidder etc. They tried to shirk responsibility of the actions of their contractors because of the fragmented chain of command. According to their own reports they will be making some improvements in improving working conditions but in any of the independant sources i read the details are different.,......
- Lop0
"These shoes sell for 100+ USD. They cost mere pennies to make. Why shouldn't they see that money?!?"
Do you honestly think that you just listed Nikes overhead cost?
- Lop0
"Outsource and contract out production to the lowest bidder etc."
Name a company that doesn't.
- brandelec0
fingercore, nike charges that much for shoes because people will buy them, kudos to those that boycot them, because it'll make them lower their prices
again, their wages are only unfair if they were paying you, what they're getting is more than would ever see
- lowimpakt0
" Name a company that doesn't."
does that maker employee exploitation, low wages and poor labour standards OK?
- Lop0
"does that maker employee exploitation, low wages and poor labour standards OK?"
Not concerned with that. The concern should be with the country and its governing body allowing the economy to slip. Take responsibility.
- Lop0
The pennies spent are dollars to these people. The cost of living is much different. Wtf.
- mrdobolina0
what sneakers could you possibly buy that arent made in conditions like that?
- Lop0
From what I have gathered you are under the impression that the CEO of Nike should take a pay cut and this in turn will boost the wages?
These childish, misinformed and idealistic expectations just play on my last nerve.
- lowimpakt0
"The pennies spent are dollars to these people. The cost of living is much different. Wtf."
sigh........
- brandelec0
if you guys want to get simplistic, put is this way, someone out there can buy their child a pencil and a pad of paper for school, medicine for their parents, and food for their family all because of the products people buy.
now with what they do with that money, how much different is it with what you do with your money? oh yeah thats right, one small difference, you buy those products on top of it
- fingercore0
Yes, I'm very idealistic. Something is not right when huge corporations see tremendous profits while exploiting others. Obviously there are overhead costs and obviously the CEO taking a pay-cut won't solve everything. Why is everyone excusing these huge corporations? Stop blaming everything on the mystical and elusive beaurocracy that somehow can't be changed.
And guess what, even if these people were making the equivalent of what a minimum-wage or living-wage salary was in the US (which they aren't), it still doesn't mean that corporations should be allowed to take advantage of such a situation. Money is being made and it isn't going towards the people that actually create the products.
- mrdobolina0
what sneakers/computers can you buy that arent produced in environments like that?
- Soler0
There are companies that do not use slave labor. the tag reads, "Made in the USA".
Most do though