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- Mr_Jump0
Do you think the news media is becoming increasingly sensationalist trying to satisfy our desire for violence and car-crash horror? We all (most of us) slow down when we see accidents just to see the dead bodies. I bet everyone here opened up those links even tho we all knew they were gonna be sick images. I dont think its a question of right or wrong on part of NY Times. They were giving us what we want. Most of us when we heard the news reports wanted to see graphic pictures (i know i did), if only to be repulsed properly. To have something more concrete to be repulsed at maybe. I dont understand the collective desire to be censored cos we can't control our urges - and cos they conflict with some other morality. (very Nietzche). Personally i want to be able to see the worst of humanity and come to terms with it. I want to see what those kids who threw rocks at the bodies saw. But them i'm twisted like that.
- DutchBoy0
it's the truth.
is the truth out of line?
- spaniard0
nope, it was out of line to hang em' from the bridge though... have they showed the film anywhere in the states or is it censored on all channels?
- Dita0
link?
- Mr_Jump0
OK. I've just seen that avi someone posted. I didn't think it was that bad. Seeing someone murdered live, thats where i'd draw the line. We're soooo protected from death in this day and age. It all happens in a nice sanitised version away from us. I can see why people get shocked when they realise that they;re nothing more than a piece of meat.
- DutchBoy0
i have not seen them though, but have read a lot about the commotion around the publishing of images/footage.
i can't believe this has to be censored, it's incredible that anno 2004 there's still a censor in press in that country of "the free"..
:/
- Soler0
Mr_Jump, I agree, would you want your 5-year-old to see it?
- mrdobolina0
I saw the footage on our news.
- JazX0
lots of nasty shit goes on, they just happen to catch this one
- woodyBatts0
Good call Jevad, as always.
Most people don't know Hitler was elected as well.
ooops
And as for the pic, even though it was bodies hangin, it was still cropped and censored, there is also a video that they aren't playing in america...
This is where I get all F**ked up
- spaniard0
dutchboy - they were all carvered up...
- Mr_Jump0
I dont have a 5 yr old. I'm no psychiatrist. But i think kids can deal with these things way better than grown ups. COs they dont have the emotional complexity to understand, or empathise with it. Or to have their view of the world shot to pieces. Cos they haven't really formed it yet. Thinkin back to when i was 5, i wuda just seen pictures and wuda been totally unmoved and gone out to climb trees (or whatever 5 yr olds do). I might be totally wrong. But i dont think i am. Any child psychiatrists in the house?
- Soler0
I'm no child psychiatrist either. I'd like to hear from one.
But, I do know I would get scared at scary shit. And it wasn't half as bad as it is now. thats all. may be its good for them
- Mr_Jump0
But if i was related to any of them. I wud have been totally offended. But then thats a whole nother issue. Maybe thats why some americans are offended - seeing they're fellow countrymen disrepected like that. I got a story about that, a girl i knew's brother fighting in iraq, when one of his fellow soldiers was killed he covered the body up with the american flag before he let the photographer take the picture. Made me think.
- woodyBatts0
Censored here, no films. A brother of a victim was just on CNN.
Sorry no link, i'll try to find one Dita.
- DutchBoy0
spaniard, i understand it is shocking, but they can either broadcast it late at night or partly use censoring (pixellation of certain parts?)
but they should not completely withhold this from the public, esp. not with upcoming elections..
but that's just my 2c.
- woodyBatts0
Nice to get a international perspective, I just thought it was indicative of how things are going in New Ameriraq.
- spaniard0
he he! your 56k's worth...
- _niko0
It's fucked up to see what's happening to Americans in Iraq.
It's even more fucked up that George Bush is joking about not finding any WMD's or the fact that he hasn't gone to one funeral of a fallen soldier.
but why should he care about the little man? Bush got his war, he got saddam, and all his friends got big fat oil and construction contracts, all with the blood of the people.
- Dita0
what it this all about?
I'm interested - have i missed something here? tried BBC news and I can't see anything.