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- gsd
Am I the only one that thinks it's disgusting that, when you check out an advert for a vacancy for 'Graphic Designer' that, these days it's not just good enough knowing A: How to think and design good concepts and B: know how to use photoshop, Illustrator, QuarkXpress but you ALSO seem to have to be fluent in dreamweaver, HTML, other coding, other software you've rarely even heard of? I mean, I know you pick things up along the way but why can't I come with the ideas and get a web guy to work them up rather than being forced into learning a whole new discipline? Surely the true nature of a graphic designer / any designer is to THINK and be CREATIVE? Is it us with our penchant for quick fire trends and fads that get bandied about on the web and in books in a cyclic matter or is it the industry itself that is turning us all into a bunch of Mac Monkeys - 'Jacks of all trades' that can sit on a mac and knock up pretty images day after day - a lot of which is basically to impress designers with current trends "look at me everyone - I can do that too!" It's these people with P.C's sat at home with fucking CorelDraw etc saying to their mates that they can design web pages and flyers - thats where the root of it all lies - I don't think in the public eye there's as much importance placed on design - it's not viewed as a craft any more....
- phatlee0
hahaha...sooooo true!!
- gsd0
it's all just a pain in the arse....
- phatlee0
decent places dont ask for jack of all trades anyway...
- ********0
True, the computer has made design much more accessible, and that is why skills like typography are deminishing.
But that is where the skills we have as creatives shine above Joe shmoe and his PC.
- davetufts0
on the flip side - it's no fun to hire a designer that has no concept of web design...pay him or her to create something beautiful...then pay a 'web guy' to tell you that it's impossible to recreate that design on the web.
If you're a graphic designer you have to know html. the web is not a 'quick fire trend'
i had to learn how to cut a ruby lith...bite the friggin bullet and learn HTML....or get a job in print production and stop your whining.
- ********0
Ah..design versus code again.....
- gsd0
well print is what I do - not production - just the designing - the point is, is that companies just seem happy to get some print guy who pertains to be a 'web designer' too and they'll settle for it - even though all he can do is knock something up in dreamweaver - point and click - it degrades what a designer is about - "you - knock me up a logo, stick it ona flyer and then chuck it ona web page too, right? No time for concepts sonny, mr client is paying big bucks and wants his work done before he has that meeting today..."
check out this link for an example of great internet design:
http://2advanced.com/flashindex.…a great graphic designer:
http://www.designindabamag.com/2…and architecture:
http://www.fosterandpartners.com…all different disciplines - no jacks of all trades there - so why is the industry intent on making the crossover with web and print?
- CyBrainX0
Good response, GSD.
I think the people who are writing those ads are not creative people. I also think the lower the pay, the more qualifications (unrealistic or not) will be in their ads.