What could I do...
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- stimuli0
Nah rasko, not on £8k anymore, that would be a frickin nightmare.
I'm just pissed off because I know there's nothing else I want to do. I don't want to start again with a new trade, I've had 5 years design experience already. I know I probably wouldn't be happy doing anything else but I'm not entirely happy doing design either. Either way I can't win.
Think I just need some direction, a purpose or goal to get some recognition. Wish I had the time and energy to do the stuff I want to do, not the usual corporate bottom-rung pish or some wanky client who wants a design because his wife's dog shat out a design on the floor.
- unknown0
I know how you feel, I think for me I'm going to have to make a break sometime and start doing something for myself, something where your hardwork is rewarded not only by having a nice piece of work completed but also that you are also getting the financial rewards.. I'm not a money minded person but I resent the fact that everyone around me seems to be getting paid more because they are account handlers or whatever even though they are often incompetent idiots, they just happen to be good at bumlicking and smalltalking twatty clients where as we are the people with the ideas and the know-how.
Its all about maintaininng a link between yourself and your work and being rewarded directly rather than being exploited by the seperation of doing and done.
- vespa0
"exploited by the seperation of doing and done."
what do you mean by that rasko?
- wendell0
MrBixler is it your song text did you write it to, i will like to make figurines if i do not do design. i can fix clocks or wrist watchs aswell.
- plamenski0
Sell your design skills ... to yourself.
I've teamed up with another guy who's got a master degree in wine, it's very rare btw there are only 250 like him in the world. We set up a company to sell fine wines and champagne to restaurants and private customers. We only sell good stuff, not compromises.
He selects the wines and the prices and I do all the marketing, design and we both do the sales.
It works like magic!
- unknown0
its the root of what capitalism is all about; whereby an employer removes the factory worker from the end result of what they produce and creates profit from their exploitation.
In a capitalist world we are constantly at war with ourselves because the culture denies our humanity and our role in society by insisting on a false notion of individualism and heirarchy which is based largely upon financial status.
There is a huge contradiction in that we work (for a relative pittence) to produce for someone else who sells at a huge gain whilst we are left struggling at the bottom of the ladder buying the products we have been exploited to produce, its a vicious circle.
Now that perhaps is exaggerated in terms of what we do but the foundation is the same, it is this basis which breeds discontentment and inner turmoil though often people dont analize themselves enough to realise it, they simply find the need to earn more which keeps them in the circle, a circle which is almost impossible to break unless you are able to completely remove oneself from the system otherwise you are fighting fire with fire.
- eloosive0
Fuck all that. Trade securities/currency. Like the Euro, Yen vs. the US dollar. I'm on that path. Ready to do design as a hobby. Hell, if you could make 600 or more bucks a day on a Forex account in two hours than work 8hrs, 7 days for some sorry ass client, well, what's keeping you? There, I just did you a favor. No thanks required. Get out of the opinionated designers vs. money laden clients rat race. Managing your risk is easier than xhtml at least.
http://www.oanda.com
- vespa0
well this just got interesting.
Maybe it's best to design for money and follow personal projects (for me it's music) for creative pleasure. I still love design too much for it to ever be a "hobby". (hobby makes me think of aeroplane models or knitting)
Music and drawing are so immediately satisfying, must be the organic development between doing and done. But i'm sure the music industry is even more vampirical. (is that a word?)
It's hard to reconcile yourself to being a cog, but some of it is good - i.e. people do so much more collectively than as individuals. Like I wonder how many companies/countries it took to make all the elements needed to put the pen on my desk together? woops i'm rambling...
- unknown0
"people do so much more collectively than as individuals"
exactly, but imagine if we were actually working for the betterment of all society rather than masses of people working for the benefit of a small number of fat cats. The masses would feel the benefits of their efforts directly and the morale boost would create a happier society with lower crime rates.
I'm sounding like a hippy here but theres truth in it, its just that to truly achieve it requires a start from scratch which at the moment seems unlikely to happen.
- vespa0
i do agree with you. but we have become so used to capitalism that now it's taken as truth that people are motivated purely by personal gain...
Designers have become unquestioning cogs rather than people with new ideas about how things could be. You can see it all over NT discussions.
- unknown0
we are a poscript error.
- barkhaus0
in the same boat aswell mate, having problems finding work up here in scotland (uk), the climate is so bad and the reponse for all the work I put in some times seems hardly worth it. but as people have been telling me design is what i'm all about so we all just have to keep positive
- stimuli0
Jesus this post got heavy there for a while! At least I'm not alone, that's good to know (in a funny kind of way). Still, all my motivation has gone right out the window along with my creative thinking. Hope I find it again soon.
Barkhaus, where in Scotland are you? There's absolutely no jobs in Edinburgh at the moment, nothing but redundancies. It's a shit time to be in design.