Web Design's Future
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- vena0
i never saw the problem... print designers should know enough about papers and inks to work with the printer, web designers should know enough about backend to work with the programmers.
but i've *always* believed that you shouldn't call yourself a web designer if you don't know all the frontend stuff like html, javascript, and css. they're the basic building blocks of the craft.
- muidlatif0
those programmings are tough. Even though I'm a designer, I need to know all this stuff in order for me to communicate with programmers easier... plus, if you learn XML or whatsoever, it's not that bad, you get extra income though...
- CyBrainX0
I still believe that designers should only know enough programming to work well and communicate with people to do it better and faster. You can't excel in everything. Of course, employers will try to tell you to and then underpay you. From this thread, it seems like that kind of propaganda has affected a few NT people. Don't take it from The Man.
- abba_cadaver0
heres a good article showing some of what design does for a project
- monkeyshine0
yeah, I agree. web designers need to know enough so that we can keep you programmers on your toes (i.e., "that can't be done"). Well, of course, YOU programmers haven't ever done this but you know who I mean. ;)
- BonSeff0
web designs future is cmyk
lurn that
- corin0
Excellent article abba, joel is the man:)
- CyBrainX0
No, the future is not cmyk. Print media is just as far down the toilet after the bust. It'a all about media and marketing. If you can get companies to spend money on promoting themselves, a good idea will sell in the appropriate media. Online ideas are sometimes better than print ideas and vice versa. You'll see for sure when the recession ends.
- mbr0
I actually think (although I know little ;-) that the backend will become more and more standardized and easier to implement. At least for the simple stuff and daily updates.
With Macromedia incorporating most of the languages in DW it makes it similar to handcoding a few years ago. Not that I know any of it beyond what things do (I skipped out on my PHP class and am glad I did), but it's nice to know that it's not required to know everything to do simple (for the programmers) shit.Programming will be a race against technology. A good design can be made in PS 4 and stuck in tables, it doesn't matter as long as it works.
Thank God I am on the designer's end, it's hard enough keeping up with the 3D apps and doing a little web design.
- Edo0
It is my experience that webdesigners who are following the latest DHTML and JS technologies, also make better UIs. This was particulary true a few years ago when we there were big improvements made on DHTML and plugins like Flash. You suddenly had a whole scale of new possiblities at the front end. It took people like the ones at Kioken and vir2l etc. to show us what could be done.
- sparker0
ape, yea...i developed a custom fluxbox theme and use it on my laptop (which runs freebsd). i'm not a big fan of how x handles fonts, i prefer better window managers than just x.
and i share vena's opinion, if you work as a web designer you should know the ins and outs of xhtml, css and at least javascript ( preferrably ECMASscript ).
i studied architectural design in college and i had to know both 'design' and engineering in order to properly design a working building/structure.
it is very similar to web design. you must know how to assemble a site correctly...and i'm not talking letting dreamweaver or some editor do the work for you. a good web designer should be software independent. he/she should be comfortable writing in notepad as well as an editor.
i'm also a firm believer in the concept of specialized positions. ideally, it would be great to have an information architect, a technical writer, a programmer and a designer work on every project fluidly..but that will never happen. especially in small businesses.