Quark 6 or Indesign 2
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- waynepixel
Hi All
I am thinking of getting into Print Design and out of web design for the time being.
The problem is which program to learn Quark 6 or Indesign 2. I have not touched Quark for about 6 years. But I had a good look at QuarkXpress 6 yesterday and I cannot believe what I was seeing, no-think has change in that program at all, WTF is that all about.
Has Quark not been bothered to update this program at all.
And I seem to be getting a lot of good reports about Indesign and it integration with other Adobe product.
Some advise would be of great help please.
- Danski0
Personally, I use inDesign 2 and I wouldn't consider removing it from my machine, ever. I get on really well with it.
- stimuli0
I think most people will be recommending InDesign. I'm used to Quark but I'm tempted to get into InDesign, more for the integration with Photoshop and Illustrator. It's just a hassle starting from scratch with a new application - I use Quark every day and I don't really have time to experiment with another application.
- waynepixel0
Hi Danski
are you from the UK and if so, did you have any problem with printers supporting Indesign.
- waynepixel0
com-on people. more advice please.
I now its friday and you just want to get fucked out of your head, but is important too me. So please help.
- Blofeldt0
If you are going to be using a regular printer see if they can support InDesign or PDF's.
Also depends on what you're doing. We use InDesign, but we don't do many multipage books and stuff. Mainly posters and press ads. Which you can supply to printers/repro houses as .EPS's and we create them in Illustrator.I'd expect most big priniters will support InDesign now. It's my favourite.
- unknown0
Most printers I deal with use Indesign to be competitive. I've had no problem finding printers... they are just as excited to move away from Quark as we are. Personally- I have only used Quark all these years because I HAD too. I always the app was sloppy and buggy. Indesign is NOT perfect but in such a little time it has proven to be a great option. Really it seems the more designers that work with Indesign the more printers will adapt- remember they make their money off of our jobs. Its been a relatively easy transition for me and I have no reason or will to go back to Quark.
- lemon7140
InDesign.just use it.
- waynepixel0
Indesign It is then. Thanks for your help. :)
- Hypo0
Quark hasent changed??
Your jokeing arnt you.. its had had a total fucking make over.
In design Looks great but its not industry standard. Its a pretty cheap piece of software really, its look better than quark on the surface, but take the cover off and you'll find its powered by a small hamster on a wheel.
- Hypo0
I wouldnt do that if I were you.
It wont look good.....
- waynepixel0
hi Hypo
I have had a chance to use Quark 6 for OSX and it just looks and fills like Quark 4 but on OS X.
I mean WTF is that all about, and it has taken them 3 year to do it.????
Maybe you could point out what is new and what is not because I cannot see it.
But I do agree with you on one thing. It does still seem to be industry standard for print.
- scoops0
I've been using InDesign almost exclusively since January, and i wouldn't go back to Quark if you threatened me with bodily harm.
While it may not be the "industry standard," it's acceptance as a leading software package has resulted in almost every serious print house supporting it. Out of the 10 or so that I have dealt with in the last 6 months, only one hasn't supported it, and I don't think they have updated since the mid-80's.
good luck
- Bunkum0
I would say Quark cause it's seen as industry standard although they could be pricing themselves out of the market with the new release. Learn both.
- mayo0
Go with InDesign. It's more streamlined thank Quark and has features that have made life a lot easier print-wise.
To be honest, i haven't looked at any of the versions of Quark after Passport, but i really have no need. Also, InDesign can open Quark docs.
- elephi_no0
i'm stuck in the same boat. i just came from a school still using pagemaker for print (shudder) who was finally switching to indesign. from what I could see, it was worth it. but i'm now going to a school that uses quark (don't know which version). never used before.
the decision is up to you, man, but from what i've read and seen, if you're always having to switch over to photoshop or illustrator to make something that quark can't, then get indesign, because indesign can. quark is an old bastion, and indesign is the closest thing there is breaking it down. true, it still needs work (i liked the hamster comment) but it's getting better and makes it easier to work in one program for print.
don't both of these progs have trial versions? since i now have to learn quark. .(
- abizzyman0
so... today's my first day in InDesign 2.0...
... but I can't open Quark 5.0 docs.... should I save down to 4.0?
- freshmode0
I would recommend InDesign.
I was forced to learn it at my last job when they wanted me to produce a brochure. I learned enough in 2 days that it allowed me to handle the project with no problems. I have tried to use quark for the past 6 years. Maybe it's because I hate it that I haven't been able to learn it well. I can get around in Quark but InDesign is so familiar with Illustrator and Photoshop that it makes sense if you use those 2 programs a lot. Although, InDesign has a shitty eps output. IF you are working on books and mag layouts, Do not export the files to eps. It just doesn't work. PDF output and native formats are off the hook. Plus it does all your pre flight and package so well.
stimuli - I know it is tuff when you don't have time at work to do anything else besides look at your monitor, but it is worth it to make the time and learn it, then convert your studio, or at least your workstation to InDesign.
And yes, there is trial version software online for both. Then again, you can just nab it from somewhere and then buy when you get a good project that will pay for it. It is the designers way!!!! Not that I condone steeling or anything....
OK, times up....
- republikah0
I like working with In Design, I HATE Quark, I used quark for 2 years and believe me you are going to see the good results changing to In Design.
- waynepixel0
God I which I never started this topic now. I fill all confused
OK lets look at it this way. What program would you say is used the most in Print design.
Ready Steady GO!!!!!
- auricom0
i just started using Indesign as well and like most people, i love it. i like the fact you can bring in layered photoshop files then wrap text around whatever you have. makes things a bit easier. i always hated going from an adobe file to quark, i get into this flow and then i open quark and all commands are different.
here this should help: