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- ********0
You probably were in the city region if you are talking about the Victorians here. There are a lot of those. I live in the Mexican War Streets area in Northside http://www.city.pittsburgh.pa.us… . Sorta' a rough area, but liveable. If you were near the University of Pburgh, then you were in a fun and nice area too. Not many young people here and weather really sucks, big downful.
- ********0
Funny you should say that word "Victorian": The Mexican War Streets is a Victorian neighborhood. The term "Victorian", however, does not refer to a specific architectural style, but instead to the era of Queen Victoria's reign (from 1837 to 1901). During that time, many different architectural styles were popular. These "Victorian" styles included the Greek Revival (ca. 1825-1860); the Italianate (ca. 1860-1885) and its contemporary, the French Second Empire (ca. 1855-1885); and Richardsonian Romanesque and Queen Anne (ca. 1880-1900), which were superseded by the Classical Revival at the turn of the century. :)
- monkeyshine0
You're funny! You are right. I think when people talk about Victorian they 9x out of 10 mean Queen Anne. My favorite type is Gothic Revival. At any rate, I'm obsessed with VICTORIANS. I wrote an article about houses in a specific Boston neighborhood.
I don't know where I was in Pittsburgh. I know my friends have this amazing, huge house up on a big hill and the neighborhood seemed cool. ?
- vespa0
sorry to bring this back to the thread topic...
"going smoothly"...?
Is the Anglo-American of cluster bombs, illegal weapons under the Geneva convention, a sign of a smooth and just war BuckyBall?
- vespa0
brilliant!
- unknown0
monkeyshine, it was just a "funny" comment ;) I don't support by any means what Saddam's been doing... The thing that bugs me is why the USA did nothing when they had to? ie when Saddam gassed the kurds (and his own people), besides using chemical weapons as well against Iran's troops... And it's very easy to answer: way back then Iraq was their ally and Iran public enemy no.1. But not only the USA are to be blamed for that. Germany, France, the UK... They didn't give a shit as well about Saddam using FORBIDDEN WEAPONS... They did nothing just because Iran was a threat for all western "democracies"... The more you dig in recent history, the more it makes you wanna puke...
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- monkeyshine0
g'mornin Elektro. Yes Yes Yes. I don't disagree with anything you just said. The politiks of this make me wanna puke as well. However, I don't see anything funny about your last post. And I'd rather talk about Victorians anyway. :)
- Bluejam0
Going smoothly?
Before the bombs started to drop the Iraqi army numbered around the 350,000-425,000 mark. Minus 8,000 POW's and let's say 100,000 dead. That leaves us with the world's largest terrorist organization...
...who are now wearing civilian clothing, prepared for suicide bombing missions and could potentially have WMD's.
They make OBL and his crew look like first graders...
...things could get incredibly ugly.
Going smoothly?
- Jamesh0
Who told you the war is in hand? CNN? FauxNews?
Just 2 days ago Rumsfeld was getting his ass reemed by the entire media for not listening to his generals and planning the war out properly. you know..supply lines getting cut off...innocents being shot as they ran from cities...US pilots shoots brits, etc.. etc..
Then after a day of relative 'smoothness' the war is all the sudden going OK and Iraq is 'in hand'. (if you count losing a chopper and an F16 and a handfull of americans and a alot of innocent Iraqi civians smooth)
you must not get any news outside of the US.
Baghdad is not going to be easy.
I also find it funny when a PRO-WAR thread gets started it's not considered 'boring, tired, or zzzzzzzzz' by the haters. "Do we have to have another war thread?" -typical prowar guy on a bad day
Hundreds, maybe more than a thousand innocent civilians have died and this is success?
Everyone one of those dead, even if they WERE pro-USA they are now converted TERRORISTS.
I hope you enjoy the next century of BUSH-INDUCED TERRORISM sponsored by the american taxpayer.
Future enemies:
Syria
Iran
Pakistan (terrorists with nukes YAY!)
Saudi Arabia
Indonesia
North Korea
Lybia
and so on.. and so on..have a nice day.
- mrdobolina0
Jamesh, have you ever followed wars in the past? Well, if you have then you will know that all wars have civilian casualties. The difference between this one and others is that it has been turned into reality TV.
Think about it, embedded reporters? It is the media who made this out to be a cakewalk.
- Jamesh0
Bullshit.
It was rumsfeld, cheney and bush who made this out to be a cakewalk.
"The Iraqi people will simply lay down their arms and welcome us as their liberators". -Cheney
Don't make me post some links.
And yes I've followed more war than I care to. If you followed this one a little closer you'd know what your leaders are saying. The media simply sensationalized everything. I don't get my news from the TV.
- mrdobolina0
why do you always have to be such a prick about it?
- mas0
Buckyballz, if you really hate the Iraqi regime, how do you feel about the fact the the USA armed and established that regime?
Maybe America should attack itself to remove its own dictator and restore its own democracy before it sets about 'liberating' the Middle East (..ern oil).
- mrdobolina0
mas, that statement is just ridiculous.
- ********0
just an objective observation. I am not violent man, but i am pro-action/decision....anyway, it almost seems to me that extremely anti-war people love to fight, just as many vegetarians love to be depressed.
- mas0
"I'm so sick of arming the world, then sending troops over to destroy the fucking arms, you know what I mean? We keep arming these little countries, then we go and blow the shit out of them. We're like the bullies of the world, y'know. We're like Jack Palance in the movie Shane, throwing the pistol at the sheepherder's feet.
"Pick it up."
"I don't wanna pick it up, Mister, you'll shoot me."
"Pick up the gun."
(He picks it up. Three shots ring out.)
"You all saw him - he had a gun."
Bill Hicks (American)
- mrdobolina0
agreed Lou, peacelovers also love to argue.
- mrdobolina0
sorry, that came out wrong, SOME people that are 100% peace at all costs are argumentative. Not all.