Donate your skills
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Here is the situation.
Say you, a great designer/programmer, have a friend who just started a band, business or anything else that would require or could use a website. They come to you excited because they just paid $1000 for a website. They think it is great and are ready to promote the hell out of it.
The only problem is that the website is horrible in how it works and looks. Just another bad design.
What do you do? Do you say "cool" and let them make a fool of them selves? Do you explain to them that they just got ripped off and now it is your friendly duty to donate a site to them? Or do you explain to them that they got ripped off and now they need to pay you $5000 to fix the problem?
I am not in this situation... just wondering what you all would do. Or have you been in this situation in the past?
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- Nirvous0
If it's a good friend....let them know it sucks and help out a bit with the site.
If it's just an acquaintance...."Nice site" ::cough::
- neeko0
nah, no matter who it is... if its really, really bad, you should let them know, and let them know why...
the free work thing is your call, depending on how well you know the guy, and how much free work/time you have. always let them know what the real monetary value of your work is though, even if youre doing it as a favor.
- dopepope0
Nah...if it ain't your problem...don't make it your problem unless you welcome the pontentially grueling consequences. If it's a really good friend...then do what you gotta do...but anyone else, let them ride their high.
- enobrev0
well then you look like an ass for letting them show off with pride while even you snickered behind their back.
Telling someone that they got ripped off doesn't mean you have to do anything for them. If you choose to, then by all means... but it's not required nor should it be expected.
- dopepope0
not true...and I never said to lie to them. But if you feel the need to tell them all the flaws of their site or whatever, then you should also back it up with some helpful cunstructive crit. Which IS doing something about it.
- sauceruney0
I've found that its best to keep your mouth shut unless you're prepared to donate time fixing things up.
- neeko0
constructive criticism is the way to go, which is what i meant in my above post.
i dont think its a bad thing to "ruin their high"
if the dude is at all a friend, while its not the easiest thing to do, he/she deserves to know that he got taken for a 1000 clams.
if my electrician friend told me he knew the wiring in my house was shite right after my house burned down, i'd be a little choked. not the greatest analogy maybe, but the band relies on the site to portray an image... its one thing if you just dont like it, or think its somewhat poorly done... but if its shite, that reflects on the band, and they should know its shite.
- sauceruney0
In my case, telling them their site was shit (and why) stepped on another band member's toes, as a friend of his had done it (for a fee).
You just might have to watch what you say, and who you say it to... even in offering constructive criticism.
- dopepope0
Sure...but what constitutes a bad site, what exactly is bad about it...these are all relative and matter of opinion. Unless this thing is SERIOUSLY awful, I suppose I would have to say something. I'm human. But to call out all the flaws and not give some kind of back up offer...a donation of skill as you say...that is what is wrong. Once you call attention to a problem, do something about it. right?
- kodap0
I'm doing a portfolio site for a friend of mine for free because I love her and I love her works.
- dopepope0
I'm sure she appreciates it too Kodap. And that is the best reason to do it.
- neeko0
my opinions are based on the perception that its absolutely terrible... designking terrrible even.
(sorry designking)
- sauceruney0
let's see it
- unknown0
assume that the site is the worst thing you have ever seen.
At the same time, if they are such a good friend and paid $1000, why didn't they just come to you?
Just a question I am asking to get others opinions. At the very least, you should say something. Back up your reasons. The question is should you donate your skills. The title of the thread is Donate your skills. Fuck getting technical. It is a simple question that can be answered by simple logic.
If the person is a good friend, I would help them out. I would explain to them, why it sux then I would offer some help on the redesign. If they don't give a rats ass. Better for me. I just want to produce good works. Good design should be out their. The way I see it, their should be no reason why someone's website sux now.
Now stop fighting and just answer the question folks.
Their is no wrong "opinion"
I ROCK FRESH MODE!
- dopepope0
Jesko...RIGHT ON!