jk: global warming myth
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- spk0
yo jaw.
did you or xrusos read the nytimes article? you wanted facts.
- unfittoprint0
I beleive Greenpeace. Especially after they strat using a Madredeus song in their campaign to save the world's rain forests.
- inkbase0
3 years ago I graduated with a B.Sc. in Geophysics from the University of Calgary. For those of you that don't know, Calgary is home to the Canadian oil industry and, therefore, not a huge fan restricting greenhouse gas output.
While in school I took classes from Dr. Gerry Osborn, a paleoclimatology reseracher. He presented pretty convincing evidence from a variety of sources which indicated that, yes, the earth as a whole has been getting warmer.
This isn't a big surprise, the earth has gone through many warm/cold cycles throughout its history. The question is, how much of an effect are human activities having on the current cycle. Some say alot, some say little, but most climatologists believe we are having some effect.
I can't speak for the rest of the world, but in Canada, the vast majority of those opposed to the Kyoto Accord are somehow related to the oil industry, so they have biases just like environmentalists.
The science isn't perfect, it never is, it always involves assumptions that may not be able to be proven. Despite this, most climatologists do believe that we are having dramatic effects on the current warming cycle and that cutting greenhouse gases is a good step.
Regardless, even if it doesn't slow the current warming trend, it will limit the ammount of polution that enters our atmosphere, it will require the oil industry to develop new, more efficient technologies and it will put air quality in the minds of alot of people.
Cutting CO2 emissions, as the Future Forests site suggests, doesn't hurt anyone and may help everyone.
- jawbreaker0
I'm not questioning your facts. The problem comes when interpreting the data and placing it in context. (see "Eco-Myths" ed. Bailey.)
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digression
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"de-contextualizing" or separating facts from context is also a propaganda technique.
-------{on a related philosophical point, "environmentalists" are the ultimate "conservatives"}
I don't have time to read/respond to the NYT article at the moment, but I 'll read it and get back to you...
- jawbreaker0
inkbase, thanks for the articulate post.
you're right about Future Forest thing, it doesn't hurt. (even though some of the "science" on the site is a little questionable)
- exador0
well spoken inkbase.
my brother in law, justin is doing his doctorate in something related to forestry, and has much the same to say on the subject.
- kodap0
Its freeezing here... Alah, give us a help on weather, not war.