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- unknown0
are popup windows bigger then they should be, i am disapointed... it sucks!
- Koalition0
Uh uh..
I guess that was one off the 10 mil sites Steve didnt try..
- DenisLirette0
heheheh
- xrusos0
has anyone heard of khtml before the keynote?
(that's what safari is based on, i guess)
- christo0
I'm sticking with Chimera for now but you have to admit this is a good first attempt- how many browser choices are there really... and this is only in beta form- yes it needs work but it seems they did a hell of alot so far... support it and watch it grow.
- clique0
ahhh cheers phain! Ta for the link! I'm obviously a dumb arse. I've never seen that book mark thingy before. Cool.
- Geith0
Funny that not only doesn't Safari work with Three.Oh, he actually has it linked!
- mitee0
i like safari. chimera is wonderful, but flash is really slow on it (both my tibook and G4 tower). safari plays flash about 200% better than chimera does, but still not that great. let keep an eye out for safari....
- paulrand0
wasn't Ivor the Engine mentioned in that old Who song that was on the soundtrack for Rushmore?
- ilmarine0
there are only two bad things about it.
first: i, as a pc user, would like to try. but nope, nooo can do. how ca one build a world domination plan if one doesn't stomp right into windows territory?
second: a question to all you safari users. you know that microsoft has a programming language which name i always forget. anyway, it is used most for those wysiwyg boxes in cms-es (content management systems). so far ie 5.5+ has been the only browser to support this language. and i would like to see the day when another browser picks it up. so, has the day come? (although, knowing jobs would rather suffocate than breathe in the same room that gates occupies, i could bet million bucks that safari doesn't supoort this language, whatever its name was...)
anyway, nice to see some new forces forming in browser wars, and at the same time i can't be nothing but horrified as you write all the bugs and misses this new platoon has.
cheers
- toastie0
it's Konqueror's HTML remdering engine. I dont see why Apple has to take all the damn credit for it. They just took their libs and ported them for OSX, and made an interface for it. I dont see what the big whoop is all about.
- toastie0
im sorry to be repetative, but really, it's not really Apple's browser. it's based on open source code by the KDE team.
And on a PC you can use Konqueror under linux, which is what Safari is based on.
- unknown0
ok, we know now, toastie.
- dbox0
i wonder if it was built on Konqueror's HTML remdering [sic] engine?
anyone? toastie?
- toastie0
no really, I love it that Apple is using open source GPL'd code, therefore requiring itself to post any enchancements of it to the open source community.
It's just that everyone hailed Safari as "Apple's browser" right away.
- Sapphire0
safari is ok
- Sapphire0
i figured it had some problems with the flash embeddedness, haven't really get into it, but it does appear slower.
- unknown0
Yes, but we are just dumb ignorant Apple geeks.... :)
Is there another Konqueror based browser for OS-X out there, toastie?
- toastie0
technically, not, but you can run an X-server in OS X and run KDE/Konqueror in Quartz, or even install Linux and run it natively, but im sure noone wants to do that :)
No, the reason i was so pissed off is that writing an HTML engine that works is not an easy task and it took the KDE team years and years to get it to be a match to IE/MOzilla standards and I think if Apple chose to use these years of development, thy could have gien a bit more credit to the people who made it possible.