include comps in proposals?
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- GooseAss
question... i've worked on a lot of proposals, and they've never included any design comps. maybe simple wireframes that show the functionality of the concpets we have in mind, but never fully fleshed-out comps.
however, i'm beginning to think that a lot of my/our competitors DO include comps in their proposals. i've always been under the impression that this was considered unethical and/or stupid, but perhaps i'm wrong.
feedback?
- dstlb0
That's when a proposal becomes a free design pitch.
They suck; throwing away ideas for free, wasting time designing something you don't yet understand (maybe against a company that already work with the client and understand what they want better). I hate getting involved in pitches, clients should take you on based on your portfolio.
The only good thing it can do is if some shitty company is undercutting you it gives you a chance to show why you're worth the extra money.
Trouble is that everyone does them so if you don't maybe it weakens your position.
- GooseAss0
that's pretty much how i feel, yet it seems like even a lot of the big agencies and good designers do it... i guess if that's what i have to do to compete then that's what i'll do, but i don't like the idea.
- unknown0
speaking of proposals...anyone
know any online samples of any good ones.?
- k0na_an0k0
GooseAss-
Read the post below about the client stealing the proposal.
I think at one time or another we've all encountered a client who's done something like that.
You think you have it bad, when our company sends out a proposal, not only do we/I have to design a prototype when I have no idea what the hell they're even looking for, but also give them the resumes of everyone who will be working on the project. ugh...
- GooseAss0
that's a real drag... i don't have a problem with including resumes, but i think it's wrong to ask for free design. :(
- GooseAss0
so how about including just wireframes? is that reasonable? i think it is...
- kerus0
youre asking about COMPS right?
what about good old colored pencils and marker comps?
- kerus0
woops. i wanted to add that i also think its futile to spend tons of time trying to design for things you don't understand at all yet..
- GooseAss0
that's a good point re: not understandint the project... i guess i see wireframes as compromise- clients of course will want to see fully developed designs (for free), and we won't want to include any design in the proposal. so i see them as way of providing some kind of visual element, without wasting too much time on it.