$100k website???
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- SLAZ
a buddy of mine's roomate is a partner for a decent law firm in manhattan. They are currently looking for a complete redesign of thier website. The one they have now really looks like shit. They have been getting bids, all in the range of $100k and they are seriously considering doing it.
Now, I have been given the chance to pitch to them also and bid on the project....so lets be serious:
This is no $100k job...but I know they have the cash to spend it. How should I approach the pitch and bid? I SOOOOO WANT THIS GIG...
I think they have been only asking top knotch agencies...and I am a freelance designer, I am no agency. Me and my partner have some really good examples of jobs we have done...so what are some peoples tips on approaching this?
I am trrying to schedule a meeting with them after Xmas, so I have osme time to prepare.
all help and comments appreciated
- embarko0
i'm from tasmania, australia and just last week a local company got a grant of $100,000 (US) to upgrade there own site., what a joke. you should put in a bid, and undercut the fck out the competition.
- surfito0
good luck.
- gcabral0
ditto
- Biofreak0
sounds fantastic slaz!
some guys i used to work with charged 80,000 for sites like what youre talkin about. since ive never done it myself, i cant offer much advice, but if you know you can do it, then be a cut-throat, merciless bidder.
i'd just say dont go to low or they wont think you play in the same ballpark and make sure you lie about how much you charged for previous jobs. congrats and i hope you get it!
- Epictive0
Want to tell me what company? So I can go in and bid have that ;-). JK. Good luck.
-A
- SLAZ0
thanks guys appreciate the words...
well then, what is bidding to low? what would make me look as if I am not a player?
and at this meeting pitch...what should I bring? I mean, i am not gona bring my entire portfolio...just branding stuff? or just web stuff?? or both??
- jevad0
take everything you got and ask a lot of questions.
If you can - get as much info as you can about what they want before you go - and talk to them about it.
Don;t go lower than $60,000
- unknown0
Writing an offer for a $30k website....willl win it......well actually I am the only one......they already agreed on giving me the job...only need to send the offer as a formality....
and I got news: I work with a talented programmer I met via Newstoday®!
(think I better donate a bit afterwards...)
anyways,
Good luck, SLAZ!!
- surfito0
i dont think we can talk about money, but i can say, that going to low will make you look unprofessional.
do some research on highend lawfirm websites, and do your math, also going too low can affect you a lot, you dont know the kind of things you need to have on the site, and dont know if you need to hire other people for it. like programers and maybe even another designer or 2.
- unknown0
Surfito has a VERY good point there..!
You might look like a cheap sell out, beware!
I think they value quality over costs!
- enobrev0
walk the walk, get all the details, be punctual and professional and you can probably get them for 120k if you want.
If you're confidense is lacking enough that you have to ask how to go after it, then you're going to have to work on it a bit.
I'd say find out what the job involves, get a beautiful proposal together, and make them love you.
Buy em lunch at a steakhouse or something..
Make it happen Slaz.
Hit me up and il kick you in the ass for some confidence..
- TransFatty0
Invest some Money in your presentation
- unknown0
A piece of advise, get yourself a partner with presence that's willing to cash in half with you! If I'm a client and you go down for like less than half of the original quote I won't accept it from you! A single person cashing in a $30K website, I don't think so, they're not paying for the design only, remember, you need a lot of things to get more than $10K for a site!
Come down the hill!
:)
- unknown0
That's why most freelancers get themselves out without a job, cause they try to charge the real value of a website, I know a guy who got offered $1500 for a site, he turned it down, he asked $5000, so guess who they gave the job to? Guess who got another gig after that one? My friend, he's broke right now, I know you're not going to undersell yourself, but come down from the design mountain, life it's better by the river!
:)
- mbr0
Yeah, make the presentation something that shows your forethought, not just a stock printout of your portfolio. A laptop presentation would be nice, on a snazzy G4, maybe? Go in with as much knowledge about their competition, the reason they have for the site, the backend that will make them oh so much better than their competition's site, etc. Blow them away with how well prepared you are and you'll win them over. Maybe even have things you can hand out. With a law firm, and bucks like that, you can bet that it's going to be intimidating as hell once you get there. Prepare well, and good luck!!
- VincentVega0
Listen, I will only say this once.
;)
It's all about your methodology and being able to show them a step by step outline of how you will approach their project. Your proposal should start out with a nice bio about you or your company, followed by samples of work you've done in the past. Break up your Creative and Engineering into hourly rates and show them a project plan with a detailed budget and schedule for design / engineering / and launch. It's easy to justify the 100k when you break things up in hourly rates, and they like to see where exactly their money is going. It's all about fluff. They will most likely go with someone who is offereing to do for $100k opposed to $50k because their company will be expecting them to utilize the allocated budget, and they are going to want to feel comfortable with what they're getting.
- unknown0
Let them feel you work (are related) to a team of damn good pro's!
Hook up Enobrev! Can recommend it...
- VincentVega0
I also agree with mbr, a nice little creative song and dance presentation always helps, but keep that seperate from your actual Proposal. The creative presentation can be your leave behind.
- VincentVega0
One more thing, don't pitch the project as yourself, pitch it as a company. You may want to pick up a quick biz license if you don't have one. Identify resources that you can count on incase you need them, and make sure you showcase your team in your proposal. Bios, credentials, etc. You'll never get the job on your own. They won't feel safe.