art opinions pls
Out of context: Reply #33
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- MrAbominable0
"i think it is a question of context. a painting out of context and w/o the art institution is just paint on canvas. museums, galleries and the like do more than just house objects - they validate them and make them collectible or ‘culturally significant’ - whether you're talking about a photo, sculpture, chair, video, online performance or a tea pot. the medium isn't the issue. it's the perception created and validated by the art community that provides artistic significance and value. often, as you said, as a result of recognition of innovation. "
It appears from the above that you are arguing that fine art needs the museum to validate itself. I guess my opinion of museums is less optimistic than that. It's been my experience that they purchase by committee and only after an artist has been established in the public eye and there is a demand for the work. I believe that a work of fine art exists between the object and the viewer. To paraphrase the above, it is after all 'just paint'.
I agree that context can be a kind of fashion and in that seem innovative but so far as historical relativity or quality the western world is pretty revisionist about culling out the hype and getting to the marrow. It just takes us some time to get there.
So far as commodity goes and its validation, the earthwork and happening artists of the 60s/70s went a good distance towards creating works that escaped market value. We still don't know collectively what to do Smithson's Spiral Jetty.
"just as the minimalists were able to get their art work made by their instructions to factories, isnt it simiilar that a software artist writes his coding, and gets the technology to make the art. or is this different?"
Fabrication in the arts isn't new. The Atelier system has been in place in some form for 500 years. Foundries, have always been a removal for the sculptor. The difference between that and what you're looking at in technology is that the resolution on monitors is greatly cheaper than photo reproduction which in turn is far worse than a physical object. Additionally, the tools within the medium are incredibly crude compared to what exists in other mediums. In order for the Internet to make an original contribution to the fine art community it needs to mature to point where you don't have to wrestle with multiple browsers or variable bandwidth etc.
The medium is still far in its infancy. Portfolio websites are a very convenient form of marketing. It hasn't changed the 'how and why' that works are made. The web will eventually develop its own unique tools that allow it to do things that can't be found in clay or paint and in those areas it will eventually contribute significantly.