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    i hear you.

    me and sean are doing alot of work for urban artists and people in the music or photography/styling industry.

    i know how they are. you just have to be firm with your rates. set a standard... annd stick with it. not every client is a favour or friend.. even tho it seems like that for every job.

    every job, the client tries to be your friend... "comeon... hook a brother up...times are really tight for me right now blah blah blah"

    shut the fuck up and pay me.

    its werid cause it is business... and at the same time, its art. this is where most freelancers and companies fail. they do not have that ruthless business side that they need to gain that advantage.

    do you like working with poorly paying dancers and musicians? or do like to pay your rent and save for the future?

    you need to be able to say no.

    the first time i said no to a potential client.. everything in me told me to say yes... it was for a website... he was offering 2000 for the site. i thought it was more like 4000.

    he wouldnt budge on his 2000 figure, so i told him i could not do it.

    two days later he calls back, and we settle on 3600.

    im not saying it will happen like that everytime... but, you have to think about $$ instead of friends and layers, and brushes and HTML.

    once the money is good to go, then go nuts with the creative side.

    we need to be more creative when it comes to finding ways to make more money from our clients and existing clients in general.

    :)

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