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- cherub0
How much of the "Jacobite rebellion" story is taught in school in the UK? I don't mean university, I mean grade school, like age 14 and under. Would you be expected to have heard of "Jacobite" as part of your basic UK history?
Like, I would expect the main bullets points of basic schoolboy british history to be something like:
-The norman conquest
-The transition from unquestionable royal rule to citizens having "rights"
-The Magna Carta
-Charles I bursting into the House of Commons to arrest MPs and then getting beheaded for it
-The acts of Union
-Having America, then America deciding to "see other people" lol
-Some wars and revolutions I'm forgetting, maybe Culloden, maybe not.I'm asking all this because recently went down a DEEP rabbit hole having to do with Boleskin house on the shores of Loch Ness. Which led me to Colonel Archibald Fraser, who built modern Boleskin house to annoy someone as part of an inner clan feud. The cause of that feud having to do with the Jacobites losing the war they fought in 1746, led by Bonnie Prince Charlie.
If you're from Scotland it's probably taught even in grade school. If you're English or Welsh... I dunno. Was it taught to you? Are the words "Jacobite" and "Culloden" foreign to you?
For reference: The Battle of Culloden
- American with the most Scottish surname imaginable, my dad made it clear early on that we were "not one of the French Scots".garbage
- blimey i'm too old to remember properly but
vikings
bodicea
alfred and the cakes
norman conquest
magna carta
crusades
agincourt
henry viii /break with romehans_glib - mary & liz / the armada
raleigh/drake
cromwell
restoration
colonies
ww1/2hans_glib - not forgetting robert the bruce
william wallace
wat tyler
tolpuddle martyrs
wars of the roses
jacobiteshans_glib - ^ that plus... a fair amount of crossover into other subjects, i.e. English Literature where we studied the War Poets and Geography where we looked at fuedal...Morning_star
- ...systems and the politics of the age and in Biology where we studied vaccines and the histoirical context.Morning_star
- yeah you're clearly younger than me so you got the more interesting way of looking at history in a wider context than just a dreary rote of dates and deeds.hans_glib
- ^^^I was surprised to see how feudal the clan system was.cherub
- Imagine being a sharecropper one day, and the next day someone taps u on the shoulder... hey bud we're going to war. get ur lochaber and follow me.cherub
- (the poorest recruits would not have much more than a dirk and some farm implements as weapons)cherub
- also: the reference that garbage made is mentioned at 12:05 in the videocherub
- @hans: alfred and the cakes, agincourt, raleigh/drake, wat tyler, and tolpuddle martyrs ...were complete surprises, never heard of em. I don't even know basiccherub
- British history, apparently.cherub