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    If a monkey can do better work than you, it’s not on the monkey, it’s on you.

    Bouncing off Horp’s thoughts about Jagara’s thoughts on AI and commercial illustration. This isn’t just about the rise of the AI-powered Etsy entrepreneur, it’s about the quiet admission that the monkey wins. Her success is measured by commercial results, but her work by artistic standards, as if she’s breaking some unwritten rule. But there are no rules in nature. She’s doing exactly what the system rewards: speed, adaptability, orchestration. That’s not nothing, that’s fluency.

    The real tension isn’t about AI, or even art. It’s about conceding that the terrain has shifted, and that effort, skill, and uniqueness no longer anchor value the way they used to. If the monkey wins under new conditions, blaming the monkey misses the point. The question isn’t whether she should be allowed to play, it’s whether you’re still playing the right game. And whether you should be playing that game in the first place.

    • Or as Iverson might say: we’re talking about practice. Not the game. Practice.palimpsest
    • The complete disregard for IP is appalling though.monospaced
    • @pali yes, unfortunately, but yes.skinny_puppy
    • IP is about ownership as a proxy for authorship. People will give more credit to a paint-by-numbers kit than to a well-constructed AI prompt.palimpsest
    • One follows the rules. The other builds them.The disregard for IP is only appalling if you believe execution is more meaningful than conception.palimpsest
    • Hmmmmmonospaced
    • It's not on the monkey or you, it's on a broken system that incentivizes cutting every corner to separate labour from wealth.i_monk
    • there are no rules in nature ? ever heard of law of thermodynamics...or gravity... + there are rules in culture ... its called regulation.. and copyright...neverscared
    • thats what sets civilisation about from nature... otherwise monkey with kinves...neverscared
    • I remember when I got a speeding ticket for falling too fast. Gaia wasn't happy.palimpsest
    • Everything that can happen will happen, eventually.palimpsest
    • gaia was happy.. because your fast driving caused higher co2 emissions and u got punished...neverscared
    • when the lion is hungry he eats... thats the lawneverscared
    • Can't argue with that!palimpsest
    • Lions fail to catch their prey more often than not, to say nothing of all the adaptations that have evolved to evade/defend against them.i_monk
    • Banding together to resist predation is a universal constant...i_monk
    • If nature proposed a law of Universal Basic Prey I would totally be for it.
      Another thing to ponder, do the laws of nature go against lions eating a Whopper?
      palimpsest
    • the cyborg lion needs only electricity...neverscared
    • @paly AI, actually had a point. That interview was hours after a heated argument about running it back for the Finals, and Larry Brown finally relented..garbage
    • ..set up a conference about him coming back, and all he was getting was questions about practice. Add to that, AI's best friend was just murdered.garbage
    • Imagine a shouting match with your AD, you're almost fired, then not fired, everyone heard it in the hallway, an all-hands is called to clear the air..garbage
    • ..and all anybody wants to talk about is your creative process. Oh my god we're mixing Philly metaphors, I'm out.garbage
    • nicely stated.utopian
    • Pretty sure this was all covered in "Rise of the Planet of the Apes"yuekit
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