Russia-Ukraine Invasion
Russia-Ukraine Invasion
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- yuekit12
How do people end up cheering on a war that's killed a million people? Seems like you'd have to really be sick in the head.
Milan, pablo etc...where did it all go wrong for you that you ended up like this?
- you're the one cheering the war you fucking doofus. We've been crying our for a a negotiated peace for yearsKhurram
- You literally made the moral case for a war of attrition in this thread. Cheering on ATACMs and HIMARs and pathetic useless Challenger tanks lolKhurram
- 'Ukraine has to fight now until death for the good of all that is holy and human!" Yeah and get slaughtered in the process. Good call.Khurram
- But you support the war right? You're pro-war.yuekit
- Don't be silly, I only ever supported Ukraine fighting back against the war you guys support. At no point would I ever support an offensiveyuekit
- war against Russia or any country. That's what I'm asking, how did you get to this point where you lost your humanity?yuekit
- lol THERE'S PAGE AND PAGES of comments from you cheering on the escalation of this war wtf are you talking aboutKhurram
- Khurram you were convinced Russia wasn't going to invade...I don't think you have the best grasp on reality.yuekit
- Don't make it personal. Your twisted logic is utterly twisted. There will be peace now. On Rassia's terms. Rejoice!Khurram
- You need to move on from that. My belief in NATO/EU duplicity has been utterly vindicated. Time and time again.Khurram
- OK sure whatever. But you are pro-war...it's ridiculous to pretend otherwise.yuekit
- At the end of the day you're not really any different from other Republicans back in the early 2000s cheering on Bush as he invaded Iraq.yuekit
- And you're such a peace loving liberal lol Whatever you need to tell yourself.Khurram
- I don't think I've ever supported any kind of offensive war against anyone, so yeah.yuekit
- Yeah, you made the moral case for fighting a war of attrition... total pacifist over here lolKhurram
- Even if you hate Europe for some reason isn't it kind of sick to take that out on innocent people? I don't understandyuekit
- how you can possibly think of yourself as the good guy in all this.yuekit
- Also is liberal supposed to be an insult? As opposed to a Trump supporter? lolyuekit
- STOP analyzing these idiots man
chill damn******** - hah very obvious glorification of war and glee over the death of russian troops on here. not necessarily yuekit but anyone getting triggered by khurramkingsteven
- should probably re-evaluate if support of Ukraine is an anti-war stance lolkingsteven
- Of course it is...Russia invaded Ukraine. Ukraine wasn't actually given the chance to do a fair negotiation or make a deal.yuekit
- BTW do you remember before the war happened, I said Russia just wants to seize Ukraine's territory and you didn't believe it?yuekit
- Turns out that was not far-fetched at all. I might have even underestimated what they had planned.yuekit
- Fuck war.maquito
- Muderous dictator invades an ally, a sovereign, democratic nation. But supporting our ally as it is destroyed by our enemy is somehow against peace? Got it.formed
- You can have peace in a time of oppression. I think people lost sight of what they are fighting for. And its not rich people they are fighting for all people.brothernoah
- Russia is a dog shit country that takes from the poor and gives to the rich. They would kill your crazy sister to stop the problem and not help her.brothernoah
- unsurprisingly, supporting a side in a war is not an anti-war stance.kingsteven
- Ukraine was made into a frontline state against the will of its people, knowing that Russia considered NATO in Ukraine an existential threat and would destroyMilan
- Ukraine to prevent it. After sabotaging negotiations, western political leaders refused any diplomacy as they watched hundreds of thousands of young men dieMilan
- and argued that weapons are the path to peace. Western media smeared all criticism and opposition as "Russian propaganda". There is a difference betweenMilan
- standing with Ukraine and sacrificing Ukraine in a proxy war. Their moral slogans and accusations of betrayal rings hollow as they have no love for UkraineMilan
- in their hearts, only hatred of Russia.Milan
- Just like USA would obliterate Mexico or Canada if they planned to join an anti-USA military alliance, were getting armed to the teeth, and threatened the USA.Milan
- Prof. Mearsheimer saw this coming in 2015
https://x.com/Glenn_…Milan - Americans have always hated Russia for what it stands for. Russia is not a free society. Most of the roads are dirt except ones going to the rich.brothernoah
- America defends freedom. Thats what we stand for. To see it any other way is hillbilly foreign policy. Aligning with Russia on anything is Anti-Freedom.brothernoah
- The British empire considered themselves the first free society. Their conquest of other states was therefore just as they were 'spreading freedom'.monNom
- In retrospect, some of those conquered states did not appear to want the British 'freedom' that was inflicted on them.monNom
- I imagine communist Russia also imagined that they were liberating 'the workers' in another form of 'spreading freedom'. See how that works?monNom
- The reality is that these lands which are 'unfree' and must be liberated are always strategically located, or have important resources.monNom
- America didn't want British version of Freedom. Thats why we beat them for our own Freedom which we put into the Constitution. Americans follow that not peoplebrothernoah
- Read any American oath and it speaks to that document. never to a person, religion, or party. It's hard to change people and we spent a paltry 200 yrs trying.brothernoah
- oh I'm sure there's a person who will have a good go at editing said document if it benefits them enough, even if they fail.kalkal
- Milan, we've heard it all before. But this explanation is like a murderer saying the murder was justified because my wife cheated on me.yuekit
- Maybe that was the cause but it's not actually a justification. Ukraine is allowed to align with whoever they want. They weren't threatening Russia (how couldyuekit
- they threaten a nuclear state?). Zelensky even said we won't join NATO once Russia invaded and Putin just ignored him.yuekit
- Prior to Peter the Great, Russia had no access to warm water ports. They fought Sweden for the Baltic Sea and ottomans for the Black Sea. Both are in jeopardy.monNom
- It was the ability to have a navy that made Russia an empire. Losing those ports would be a death knell for the Russian empire.monNom
- So the prospect of losing access to crimea, due to nato membership of a pro western govt was a very real concern for Russia. It knows it cannot challenge nato.monNom
- And yes, they have nukes. That’s about all they have. We ought to be careful to push them to a point where they think they need to use them.monNom
- just last week Zelenskyy floated the idea of NATO for him stepping down. Seems NATO is still on the table.monNom
- Yes but in early 2022 he did signal he was willing to abandon NATO. So I wonder why Putin didn't leap at the opportunity?yuekit
- While the NATO issue is in the mix somewhere I think there's a danger of centering the West and USA too much in these conflicts.yuekit
- You have to remember that Eastern Europe has about as many people outside of Russia as in Russia, and many of them live in democratic countries.yuekit
- The people running Ukraine are all in their 40s and 50s whereas Russian leadership is much older. So there's an ideological and generational spilt and questionyuekit
- about the future of that part of the world just as much as about any Western military alliance.yuekit
- Y'all are silly taking that troll baitYakuZoku
- Yaku these are the major issues of our time being debated in the marketplace of ideas.yuekit