Russia-Ukraine Invasion
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A. Dugin:
"And then, in my opinion, something monstrous began. It turned out that society and, most importantly, the authorities are completely unprepared to wage a full-scale war with the West. We are now at war, there is no turning back, we cannot stop it in any way. But some time after we entered the final civilizational battle, it became clear that we were not ready for it. Maybe we have been preparing for this battle for 8 years in part, on separate issues. Oddly enough, the economy is performing well. In the economy, everything is not brilliant, but still more or less. Probably, here the preparation was better, and the right measures were taken in a timely manner. In the military sphere, we cannot criticize, so I am speaking very generally, but we see what is happening. And most importantly, in society, in the state of our people, in culture, there is not even remotely that degree which history demands of us. In this regard, we actually "sank".
Why weren't we ready?
“We don't have an ideology to fight Western ideology. We proclaimed that we were fighting against Ukrainian Nazism. And we understand this, it mobilizes us, at least. But what's next? That's what's important. In the collective West, the dominant ideology is by no means fascism, but liberalism. And how did it happen that, by some sudden and secret order of the “anti-fascist” West, which destroys traces of any nationalism on its territory, Nazism suddenly appeared in Ukraine so rapidly, grew to enormous proportions and received the support of the entire liberal world? How this paradox happened, we cannot explain. We don't have any ideological core. We are fighting the ideology of liberalism (not fully understanding what it is and how truly monstrous and contagious it is,
We proclaim that we are fighting for justice, and in our society there is such a great lack of it that the hair stands on end. We talk about honesty and purity, and our heroes, our people, our church, our history, our identity really embody honesty and purity, but our ruling class does not meet these criteria at all."
"- Do we have a chance to win? What does Russia need for this?
- In order to win, we need not only a strong, strong, powerful, powerful, modern army. We need not only a different society, not only a different culture, not only a different education, not only a different political elite and a different management class. In order to win, we need a completely different state. We need a revived Holy Rus', real people's power and a mobilization culture.
Yes, we have recognized four new subjects, which is wonderful and inevitable. We finally carried out a partial mobilization, but no one understands why six months later. Our president proclaimed the ideology in his speech in the Kremlin on September 30 on the occasion of the admission of new subjects to Russia, in the Valdai speech. This ideology, in fact, is institutionalized by Decree No. 809 on traditional values. We created the "Cultural Front" under the leadership of Nikolai Burlyaev. This year the epoch-making World Russian People's Council took place. It also passed on a high note with important meanings and a deep orientation towards direct confrontation with the modern West and its misanthropic satanic civilization.
All these initiatives are fully supported by the Duma factions and the majority of the people. But, despite these necessary and wonderful actions, our social, technological and psychological unpreparedness for the final and total confrontation with the West creates a terrible feeling. As if a sleeping person is fighting wolves attacking him. He hasn't woken up yet. They bite him, but he does not understand: is he still dreaming or are the wolves already awake? And this feeling of under-awakening, half-asleep, in which our society and our state resides, creates a monstrous impression. This is the source of colossal sacrifices. Thanks to this half-sleep, the enemy snatches pieces of flesh from us, drinks our blood, eats away our heart. This situation is extremely difficult.
You can't fight half way. Voenkor Vladlen Tatarsky recently said very correctly. By the way, he was friends with my daughter, a very interesting and correct person. He wrote that the Russians always lost if they fought half way. And Russian-Japanese, and Finnish, and Afghan, and the first Chechen. When we fight half way and not all the way, we lose. We truly win only patriotic wars when the whole people, the whole state is involved, when everything is for the front, everything is for victory, when there is not a single element in the state, in society, not included in the system of struggle for victory. If the war is half, it will be lost."
- "the final and total confrontation with the West" these thoughts********
- It's the same as American neoconservatives in 2002 saying we need to go rampaging through the Middle East and overthrow every country's government.yuekit
- Yeah sure you "need" to do that...or you could just go home.yuekit
- the difference is that those ideologies go all the way back to the Crusades.
this is a relatively new one...******** - https://www.mod-lang…yuekit
- ^ I found this article which says Dugin's ideas are descended from the French new right...I had assumed it was the other way around.yuekit
- But the idea seems to essentially just be, ethnonationalism. States should have the right to do what they want within their borders. I'm not sure how differentyuekit
- that is from the world we already live in. Did anyone force Iran or China to be liberal? Or even states that are aligned with NATO like Poland, Japan, Turkey...yuekit
- The whole thing is nonsensical on some level and just an excuse for billionaires in Russia to grab more land and resources.yuekit
- "the final and total confrontation with the West" these thoughts