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Just read a discussion on twitter: feature movies are always in 24 fps because we have a learned association between fiction and 24 fps, while 60 and higher frame rates only work for reality tv/news and in general look like 90s camcorder
I've always thought that Collateral (2004) was high frame rate, turns out its also 24fps
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- Yeah it was long known that 24fps gives that cinematic look while 60fps makes it feel TV/ sport-event'ish. Avatar was supposed to be 60fps originally.NBQ00
- Us AV nerds have known this forever. That’s why you have to turn off motion smoothing on a tv immediately and never turn it on again.monospaced
- They call it the soap opera effect because it looks like cheap shit at a high frame rate.monospaced
- So, are movies stuck in 24 fps forever?drgs
- probably. it's the same thinking behind all these retro pixel games, much more evocative than all the oh-so-real-but-not-q... ps5 super rendered nonsensehans_glib
- the hobbit was 48fpspango
- we need gen z directors to change that.pango
- Yes and watch it on a smartphone vertically.NBQ00
- all future movies will be verticalpango
- with shitty soundhans_glib
- Movies are experimenting with high frame rates. Gemini man was 60+ I think. 3D requires 60 possibly.monospaced
- Im intrigued by the fact that this association is learned. When the last generation who grew up with late 80s-90s TV drama/reality TV dies, then we will be freedrgs
- to make hfr moviesdrgs
- Alternatively, start making reality tv/news in 24fps, then flip itdrgs
- Oooof Gemini man was shit. Did not help the 60 fps camp lol.pango
- Collateral looks different because it was early digital cinema. Another early one is 28 Days Later.********
- These days, tons of “films” are shot digital. only an excellent eye can see the difference. Partly because cameras have improved, DPs understand digital, etc********
- True 60fps is cool for sports, nature, adult films. Anything where you want to feel like you’re right there. Unlike a movie, which is a piece of art for viewing********
- weird, i was looking into this yesterday too. I was watching the new Top Gun and the jerky frame rate was pissing me off as we had seats near the frontIanbolton
- Football (sports) are definitley better at 60fps. Gemini Man was actually 120fps for 3D and the realism only shows how terrible an actor W.Smith isIanbolton
- 24 frames per second is what our natural vision feels closest to or what we dream in._niko
- There’s a different look between a high shutter speed (Saving Private Ryan) and high frame rate (The Hobbit in theatre)********
- ^Wow wow wow.... I need a second... Wouldn't there be blank frames inbetween?pango
- No they just show them for longer.monospaced
- so less blur i guesspango
- Am I correct to say that the blurriness which comes with 24fps is more forgiving -- for special effects, stunt doubles etc?drgs
- like this scene in Terminator 2 up-resed to 8k and increased frame rate now looks low budget https://www.youtube.…_niko
- vs the original which is much more cinematic https://www.youtube.…_niko
- ugggh high frame rate made it feel like all the frames are gliding... it distracting...pango
- It’s awful. But most people don’t turn it off and it’s turned on as default on pretty much all TVs. Just ask Tom cruise.monospaced