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    https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch…

    "After accounting for lag between infection & death, *1 in 20* cases in Hong Kong currently ends in death.

    To put that into context, HK’s case fatality rate (NB different to infection fatality rate) is currently higher than England’s pre-vaccine peak. Two years into the pandemic."

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    • vax offers very little protection against current covid. i bet the difference in outcomes has nothing to do with vax.pr2
    • but it says righ there: "the vaccination rates are much higher"
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    • pr2 doesn’t understand charts or data. Remove the variables and indicators and he’ll make his own conclusion and declare himself a genius though.monospaced
    • What's causing the higher death rate?Chimp
    • If you follow the linked thread a few posts down, the reason for the death rate is unvaxed elderly. Sounds like they listened to the same sources as pr2robotinc
    • When Omicron hit, *more than two-thirds of people aged 80+ in Hong Kong were still unvaccinated*, compared to a couple of percent in New Zealand and Singapore.robotinc
    • Lots of Chyna is unvaxed or vaxxed with their shitty no-use vax. Many will die...due to virus and lockdowns
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    • It's possible there is some element of HKers not trusting the Chinese made vaccine, based on discussion with my uncle who lives there.yuekit
    • And of course Chinese vax is less effective than the mRNA one, but you are probably still better off taking it.yuekit
    • you guys like simplistic solutions and explanation, don't you?pr2
    • 1 in 20 dead is a LOT
      Hope your fam will pull thru this @yuekit
      can't you ship them some Western vax stuff?
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    • Correction, it seems you can actually get the mRNA ones in HK. They may just be less easily available.
      https://archive.ph/9…      yuekit
    • Pr2, imagine covid is Russia and Ukraine is mankind, if they didn’t protect themselves with weapons to fight...ah fuck it why do we bother..._niko
    • Thanks grafician...yeah the situation there seems terrible, first the National Security Law and now this.yuekit
    • bro I considered HK one of the beacons of peace and prosperity in Asia and then Chyna happened...
      So so sad :|
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    • @pr2 gave you in this post all the info you'd need to have the same fucking conclusion as the rest of us.
      Yet, you chose differently and we're wrong?!
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    • like I said, pr2 doesn't comprehend simple charts and so interprets them his own way and concludes he is more informed than the world's expertsmonospaced
    • When you interpret 2+2 = 5 then bye bye boy
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    • HK side specifies “over 80s” NZ side does not. Are they conflating the HK elderly with the NZ general population? 5% CFR is in line for 80+ demo.monNom
    • Bet loads of the dying elderly smoked at one time, can't have helpedGardener
    • True lots of smokers in China although OTOH less obese peopleyuekit
    • hah, thats not a CFR of 4.7% something fucky about these numbers HK = 1.18m cases since feb, 8556 deaths = .56%kingsteven
    • by the same logic NZ would be .05% 10x not 50x deaths... both hong kong and NZ have recorded no excess deaths for 3 years HK has an avg. age of 44.4 vs NZ 38kingsteven
    • NZ is also 24233% bigger than HK and peaked at 5x the cases per day as NZ would satisfy me as an explanation of 10x mortalitykingsteven
    • NZ also has Flight of the Concords. I’m not sure how that’s related but I’m sure they helped.Chimp
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