Russia-Ukraine Invasion

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    Russia currently gets €400m (£340m) per day from gas sales to the EU.

    Bonkers, and we think boycotting Burger King is making a difference lol

    Germany warns of a recession if Russian gas is turned off. Time for renewables?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/busines…

    • like rassa is the only gas station in the world.
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    • the thing is, once we cut the russian gas, it's forever.
      Germany announced they will try to cut it by the end of the year and it's irreversible
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    • so yes, seems they get a lot of money now, but thats the last money they're getting probably ever from Europe and they don't sell anything else
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    • Without that gas, Germany turns into Mad Max. Europe don't have the infrastructure to import enough LNG to replace RUS supply.monNom
    • Current LNG terminals are already at capacity. Proposed terminals in the past few years have been voted down.monNom
    • And it's not just heat/electricity that gas is needed for. Nitrogen fertilizer = gas. Diesel fuel process needs hydrogen from gas. Glyphosphate = gas.monNom
    • Losing 30-40% of gas means critical things for food production don't get made, or people freeze, or the lights go off. Not a great choice.monNom
    • Without fertilizer or herbicide, food production falls in half or worse. So it truly is a situation where Germany would cut off its nose to spite its face.monNom
    • Yeah, if only we could ask Ukraine for all that as they would replace Russia...oh wait
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    • Doubt they could match the capacity. Especially if the Russians disrupt things.
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    • This entire conflict is about Ukraine replacing Russia as supplier to EU!
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    • The entire idea of EU politics after WW2 is trade! We were fools thinking trading with Russia will turn that shitty country into a more pacified shithole....
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    • ...now simply rectified that mistake and sure, take the short therm L for the long term security
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