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Some REALLY interesting thoughts here from DRs talking on Capitol Hill:
- 1 takes away: covid vaccines do NOT save lives (which was news even to me)pr2
- fuckwitBusterBoy
- pr2: that's not what he said at all. But we know you love to make assumptions. Thankfully, this doctor isn't doing that. Sadly, most who watch this video will.nb
- he said we can't say that covid vaccines save lives - there was NO reduction in death between vax and placebo.pr2
- he was saying that you can't conclude based on the initial reports, actually, which isn't even truemonospaced
- he also said most cases and deaths are with the vaccinated, with is patently false ... not surprising, because he's just a professor, not a doctormonospaced
- He said the data is not convincing. pr2 upgraded that into: "covid vaccines do NOT save lives." lol man get a gripnb
- correction, he is a doctormonospaced
- 3:11 "my point is that those who claim that vaxs were highly effective in saving lives are wrong. the trails didn't show this."pr2
- Don't you think the first thing you should do is look at this guys' background? Is he actually credible, or is anyone calling themselves a doctor on YouTubeyuekit
- someone you automatically gonna listen to? https://twitter.com/…yuekit
- How do you even know this is an actual doctor? It's 2021, anyone can say anything anywhere they want.mg33
- He's a real doctor but he's got a history of anti vax, AIDS denialism... doctors and scientists can be insane too :)yuekit
- But really just listen to his reasoning here, it makes no sense at all. First he asks how can it be pandemic of unvaccinated when in the UK, i.e. one country,yuekit
- a majority of those hospitalized are vaccinated...yuekit
- But why does he only mention one country? And also this doesn't even seem to be true.yuekit
- there are thousands of doctors in every city. being a doctor means jack shit. let alone one that is riding fringe ideas on YouTube.inteliboy
- debate the actual DATA you dummies! he's editor of BMJ one of the most prestigious med publication in the world.pr2
- but if its a guy from the lancet saying the opposite, then is fake mainstream media. stop cherrypicking, you faux intellectual hack.tank02
- so u have one editor fighting another editor. meaning data is not as conclusive as your favorite "main stream media" is trying to tell you.pr2
- Again, pr2 is inflating the claims of this doctor. Listen to the doctor’s perspective but don’t listen to pr2.nb
- vaccine uptake in uk and deaths with covid on death cert by age group:
https://i.imgur.com/…
https://i.imgur.com/…kingsteven - excess mortality 85+ and proportion of deaths with covid mentioned on death cert https://i.imgur.com/…kingsteven
- old people are vaccinated and old people die shockerkingsteven
- old people get covid and old people die. shocker!pr2
- https://respectfulin…yuekit
- ^ He's not THE editor of BMJ, he's an "associate editor" and has a history of questionable claims as that article talks about.yuekit
- All this chat over his credentials and past record. What he's saying here-and-now is of more import.Brabo_Brabo
- That haircut is amazing.BonSeff
- Did the Jackass crew roll up on him?BonSeff
- He is not saying anything. It's research by Moderna and Pfizer saying it. You guys really have to start concentrating on content more.pr2
- pr2: Your posts here on this subject are tiresome. Move along.lvl_13
- pr2, he is referencing the intitial studies on efficacy, which were limited obviously. But he is ignoring the last year+ of data which doesn't help himmonospaced
- and his entire case rests on the premise that the majority of deaths/cases are vaccinated, which is obviously a crock of shitmonospaced