2020 Election Predictions

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    Say we are pragmatic and take all of this at face value with no conjecture or spin, all politics aside; this has been a massive blunder, total incompetence and impropriety on a state and local level in 8 critical swing states with margins within 1% OR LESS. This deserves a recount.

    To expand on the blunder, these states have widely varying demographics, political climates and party control. This isn’t a partisan issue, this is national.

    All counting should be stopped immediately, all tickers reset to zero, and the DHS Election Security wing needs to take over the counting in those states.

    We can't let this slide and say we will fix it next time, we have to get it right now, win lose or draw this election and our election process cannot be delegitimized.

    Biden or Trump is irrelevant. This is not tinfoil shit. This is a real constitutional crisis and it needs to be resolved properly and promptly, and the American people are going to have to wait. Trump needs to stop screaming "FRAUD!" because it's canceling out the real issue and the real message behind everything going on, and makes it too easy for the left / centrists to sweep it under the rug as the ravings of a mad man. This election has been totally mishandled by the state and local election committees and has been improperly messaged by the MSM on both sides, not to mention the overreach of big tech.

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    • What's the blunder though? You have to remember we're in an unprecedented situation with the pandemic.yuekit
    • So record numbers of people are voting by mail since they don't want to get infected, and it takes a while to count them all.yuekit
    • While I wholeheartedly agree, I think Trump will still find ways to discredit any further counts that aren't in his favor and sow discord.SteveJobs
    • It's a big logistical challenge but I doubt the federal government would do a better job than states that are set up to do this kind of thing.yuekit
    • Couldn't agree more.MondoMorphic
    • Agreed. Although I think it's crucial for him to be screaming "FRAUD" because this has played out so terribly.IRNlun6
    • Can't fix this going in thinking "oh everything is fine, we just need to check to make sure." It's not fine, this shit looks terrible.IRNlun6
    • So what is actually bad or suspicious about what's happening?yuekit
    • Agree that a recount is needed in many areas, but we should absolutely finish the first count before starting a new one.akiersky
    • It's not a recount if you just start over in the middle. We need a number to compare the recount to, otherwise you just end up in the same situationakiersky
    • What's the real issue? That it's close? How's that illegitimate?Fax_Benson
    • add to the fact Republican state legislators wouldnt allow vote tallies to start until election day in some statesjonny_quest_lives
    • so this is all optics we would have known the outcome Tuesday night had those states been able to compile their mail in votes earlierjonny_quest_lives
    • Republicans created this "drama"jonny_quest_lives
    • ^ this is what is being reported outside the US... it was also all over twitter last week that this was the challenge they would mountkingsteven
    • recounts will occur where the vote threshold merits it as is covered in most states election laws... 1.0 % These have been the rules all elections have followedjonny_quest_lives
    • we don't do recounts based on feelings... "elections have consequences" -Mitch McConnelljonny_quest_lives
    • Republicans did not create this issue. Instituting a new mail-in voting system at this scale did.IRNlun6
    • In Pennsylvania at least they did
      https://couriernewsr…      yuekit
    • "Dems tried without success to approve pre-canvassing which would have allowed for a quicker tabulation."IRNlun6
    • Quicker tabulation is not the purpose of canvassing. An article that calls the president a liar is not an honest, unbiased opinion.IRNlun6
    • "Pre canvas" as I understand it, means you open the ballot, check the voter's identity and record who they voted for ahead of time. Then on election day, youyuekit
    • simply add up/ tabulate all the votes. Some states like Pennsylvania weren't allowed to do that, so they're stuck doing the whole process after election day.yuekit
    • look at RGB here acting like he has a pulse on every detail of all counting procedured in all 50 states ... fucking hellmonospaced
    • If we throw out the fact that you actually DO NOT have a basis that there are blunders, your entire rant is absolute horse shit nonsense.monospaced
    • no offense, but can you really be so far up your own ass that you can confidently conclude there has to be a recount? you sound like a conspiracy theoristmonospaced
    • Mono, once again, with a personal attack. It was to be expected. Shrug.noRGB
    • You have literally no position in the process whatsoever, and never have, and never will. DERP.monospaced
    • Oh, and this doesn't "look terrible" unless you're butt hurt it isn't good for Trump. This looks perfectly fine to most educated, intelligent people, btw.monospaced
    • deathboy level of incomprehensible nonsense. all vagueness and no specificity.dorf
    • Personal attack? What do you expect when you share a personal opinion? I'm attacking your opinion, not you. I don't know you, it's not personal. LOLmonospaced
    • You made nonsense claims about the counting process when everyone knows you don't have an inside scoop on it. It's not personal, it's just horseshit. :)monospaced
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