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I have a hard time picturing any real-life undecided voters at this point.
- I you are still undecided at this time, you are probably going to vote for Trump.utopian
- its probably more "fuck this shit" then undecidedmoldero
- There were a ton of people in 2016 who were like, "I don't know, I voted for Trump cause he's different, hope it works out." Can't see many of these folksmathinc
- thinking it actually worked out.mathinc
- Many of them don’t think.monospaced
- i dont know man, I see a lot of support for that orange idiot, i think some think hes good while the rest are just saying let it all burnmoldero
- I know Trump supporters that changed their minds a couple years into his term. I have to assume there are others like them who have had enough.monospaced
- I can sort of understand voting for Trump in 2016 but it seems almost masochistic to want more of this shitshow at this point.yuekit
- putting biden up just shows its going back to things as usual like wars and sending out jobs that a little more than 1/2 the country does not like.moldero
- maybe trumps handling of covid will be his end thoughmoldero
- Man I was like if Biden vs trump early in 2020 I'm not voting. Now with all this shit I'm voting trump. Enemy of my enemy is my friend********
- He still is a better candidate than the 20 Dems they tried. They picked one with dementia and one polling at 2% +********
- And besides trump making globalists pissed in efforts to divide country for own aims he actually has been more on the level of clinton********
- He hasn't done major fuckups and even got some decent shit done. Besides him personally being a terrible character he hasn't done bad********
- @moldero I don't buy the idea that Trump is anti-war somehow. I'd be very worried about what happens in the second term with Iran, or even with China.yuekit
- explain ukit?********
- the guy has avoided about every conflict handed. He is taking a modern approach to war. Iran, meh. China commie using labor to get our business********
- there is sense in making manufacturing and national pride look at china 2025. however i have no clue with world economic markets, us markets and any said plan********
- because unlike china we are not centrally controlled. globalist wanted a more central control by now, but china has won.********
- creating very strange power struggles. trump also not part of the plan, and said peopel of influence want to get back on track no matter what********
- but there failure to see it happening shows how little they know. take away media constant critism on stupid tweets and he hasnt done anything bad********
- spending... probably only thign id have issue with but since powell in 2016 late backtracked i realized we wont have responsible fiscal policy ever agian********
- I just don't buy the whole narrative at all. If you look at who supports Trump it's mostly just Republicans. 90% of Republicans support Trump, 90% voted foryuekit
- Bush. And their voter base tends to be pretty old. So the reality is that a majority of Trump voters are the same people who elected Bush and gave us the Iraqyuekit
- War in the first place lol. And we're supposed to believe this is some kind of anti-establishment movement? It's not, it's the same Republican party with anyuekit
- insane person at the top. Most of the resistance to Trump comes from the fact that he is personal unqualified, not because he is threatening the elites oryuekit
- he's going to take down the new world order or something. They did just fine with Trump tax cuts, fed money printing and corporate handouts.yuekit
- As far as anti-war goes, sure he did not launch a major ground invasion like Bush did. But we're still involved in every single conflict we were when he gotyuekit
- into office. In fact Democrats passed a bill that would have ended US involvement in Yemen, which is the worst conflict in the world right now, and Trumpyuekit
- vetoed it. Strange thing to do if you're anti-war.yuekit
- There was also a moment earlier this year after Trump assassinated
one of Iran's leaders with a drone strike where the Iraqi parliament voted toyuekit - finally kick out the US from occupying their country. And Trump made some excuse about how Iraq first has to compensate the US for the cost of the Iraq War lol.yuekit
- Haha it's still nothing compared to previous presidents. The assassination public has no Info about. Can't say if just but also that guy was a turd********
- As far as yemen. I'm not fully up to date. We support yemen houthis? Who's on the coast. Not really sure democratic measure wasnt just optics?********
- But his death toll in wR rations is so little. Also forgot he tried to be cool with no and many others********
- Seriously fuckin phones. How the hell u turn off auto correct it's worse than my regular poor type********
- Unit can u just give trump kudos for no war? His big wall costs less than war..********
- Or just can't ever give trump credit where it's deserved. I know media can't. He's done some good shit but not much.********
- He cranked up military spending to ridiculous levels so I don't think that's even true.yuekit
- He's actually a better president in a long time. I'm wary of nationalist prop. But necessary to counter dragon.********
- I will give Trump credit because at certain key moments he failed to pull the trigger on a bigger escalation. But if you are being objective about it, the sameyuekit
- I hate his smug character but obama's was equally terrible. I don't like the media ividing. U gotta rember we don't have Central controlled media********
- ...is true of Obama. A lot of people were pushing him to launch a full fledged invasion of Syria and in the end he didn't (and got criticized for it).yuekit
- But media is saying trump creates divisions except it's them. Right now I feel and think the controlled media is the issue is division********
- Not a president and I can imagine any other president the same routine. Atlantic gets kudos for making shit up********
- When you really look at what is happening and not just the rhetoric, it's actually Obama who ran a more "anti-establishment" foreign policy, whereasyuekit
- Steele dossier etc. Did tea party have this against Obama?********
- Last election we were fed fake poll info.. well each chamber shit... But really makes u wonder about current elite and wether ppl choose them********
- Chose trump cause they don't want the same bush clinton team********
- Trump is mostly carrying out same policy as neoconservatives just with even less regard for international law.yuekit
- Obama was willing to make peace with Iran and Cuba for instance and criticize Israel and Saudi Arabia.yuekit
- Trump reversed all of that. So the "change" with Trump is not really a change from long-standing American policies, it's more like an angry old guy who watchedyuekit
- things start to change under Obama and couldn't take it, so he comes in and reverts back to the way it used to be.yuekit
- That's why I get annoyed by people who seem to think Trump is challenging the establishment somehow. On a personal level he pisses off a lot of peopleyuekit
- because he's not part of the club and he's a mental case, but in terms of policies he's just giving you a more extreme version of what the establishment hasyuekit
- always stood for.yuekit
- See I think Obama deal on Saudis was for green tech. Walk away looking at globalists less oil filters dependence. I will congratulate iran deal********
- But don't think it ever had any substance. More like Trump's leave in the middle east he just brokered. And did iran even keep to terms?********
- Cuba. He just did a deal for jay-z photo ops. But really cold war is over I don't really get issues now. Yes they human traffic on doctors as exports********
- But should we still tariff there cigars. We can but chi e uighur hair cheap without a bunch of embargos********
- Ut ukit what policy u find so more objectionable than any past president? Notice it's all his character and not policy?********
- And which is great because presidents should pass laws. Congress should. President shouldn't really do anything but bang secretaries********
- Why clinton ranks up their. Reagan too because his actions just as positive as I a tions********