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"We will soon be a third country, outside the loop. To enable us to return migrants to their countries of origin (where it is safe for them to be returned), we will have to negotiate our own readmission agreements.
Pending these, about the only current option is to prevent migrants from entering UK territory. And since our Border Control vessels, and any Royal Navy assets that we might use, cannot carry out enforcement roles in French waters without their permission, we are largely in the hands of the French.
Here, as we have seen, a price tag of £30 million has been suggested, without any guarantee of satisfaction. And we're not likely to get much sympathy from the French. While in 2019, they processed 151,070 asylum applications. We had to deal with around 36,000.
Given that there is very little we can do under international law to prevent the flow across the Channel, we thus have another example of the "double coffin lid". As we shed EU law (for what good it would have done us), we get caught by international law. In this case, we not only fall back on the UN Convention but also the European Convention on Human Rights."
- Just wait until they hear about the immigration sweetener deals we'll do as part of our new trade agreements.monoboy
- Brexit makes EVERYTHING worse.monoboy
- we could have a retired cruise ship in the channel, patrol boats put migrants on that, they earn their keep cleaning the deck and cooking for each other.shapesalad
- they stay on board while we process their applications, and when it's evidenced that they came from an already safe country... France... they are sent back.shapesalad
- Dad's Navy flotillas with boatload of Syrians being shoed away or arrested for kidnap by French Port authorities will be my popcorn moment of 2021.monoboy
- do that for a couple years, problem will resolve itself once the message gets across...shapesalad
- That, and supermarket riots over turnips.monoboy
- You split my posts.monoboy
- Wait, are you serious?monoboy
- Yeah, why not. You got any other ideas? Maybe an advert campaign for migrants on the reality of it all? Law change so we can deport instantly?shapesalad
- Or how about a medal? For those that make it quickest with most people in boat. And then free house, school and NHS services.shapesalad
- I have 0 sympathy. They are safe in France. France isn't at war. It isn't being bombed or having chemical weapons dropped on it. It's safe. So why come to uk?shapesalad
- I had to wait 6 months to have enough payslips to get the more than £3k 2.5 year visa for my misses. I'll be paying another £2.5k in a few years time.shapesalad
- I worked hard for it, my misses spent thousands on learning English. We pay tax. We followed laws. Why should some pay a criminal and get a free service in UK?shapesalad
- They can follow the rules. Claim asylum in first EU country they reach, if it's successful follow procedures on being relocated in the EU or near to familyshapesalad
- in other EU countries. And if they don't like it, they can go back to their home country. If really want to go to uk, can follow legal ways.shapesalad
- Can't have two systems. I could have saved a small fortune had my wife just bought a inflatable kayak and paddled across from France...shapesalad
- All this leftwing BS about how they're victims, stuck in the camp for years etc.. Yeah in fucking France, land of fine wines, cheeses and bare titles on beachesshapesalad
- Irony much? London's full of fine foods and wine and other riches. Doesn't stop you moaning about it and banging on about migrating (again)Fax_Benson
- For a better lifeFax_Benson
- ID cards. Block the settlement of families of illegals. Benefit reform. We need to curb the pull factors.Doris_McSquirter
- Too many folk here as it is without more illegals,peacfuls etc adding to the numbers/Doris_McSquirter
- Your wife is an economic migrant. These people are mostly refugees.monoboy
- [I say tongue in cheekly]monoboy
- All EU nations have different laws regarding migrants. You know, sovereignty. UK treats them better than France. But we are all bound by Human Rights laws.monoboy
- We try and take less, fob them off on France who take more. They no longer have to play ball.monoboy
- In the UK, automatic asylum, no national IDs, or labour laws. They can melt into the system easier. That's why they come here.monoboy
- Some of them are Doctors, Lawyers, Business owners, escaping death in Syria, Iraq. They are of value to us a nation.monoboy
- Some are not of course. But the numbers aren't as dramatic as the media make them out to be.monoboy
- It's merely a vessel on which right-wing populists can stoke fears very effectively.monoboy
- If we stopped smashing the shit out places, we wouldn't have as many refugees. Only then can you rightfully dismiss 'economic migrants.monoboy
- This current admin wouldn't think twice about using navy gunboats as a scare tactic to get your vote.monoboy
- Whilst not doing a thing about UK law and disastrous foreign policy.monoboy
- Because they told us it was all the EUs fault.monoboy
- Don't fall for the spin, otherwise you'll end up sounding like one of those nasty grasping nativist nimbies who can't imagine having the shoe on the other foot.monoboy