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  • drgs-3

    A special note to tank02 and everyone else who foams around their mouth when talking about BLM: Stop thinking about this movement in a binary way, pro-BLM or anti-BLM -- shit's a mess, a wallowing pit of hate and confusion between both sides (and entertainment for me).

    Some of the recent statues that have been dismantled:

    Ulysses Grant -- a Union general who led the northern forces
    https://www.sfchronicle.com/opin…

    Hans Christian Heg -- a Norwegian American abolitionist and anti-slavery activist, who led Scandinavian 15th Wisconsin Volunteer Regiment on the Union side
    https://eu.jsonline.com/story/ne…

    Why? I don't know, but the ideology behind all this is called the 1619 Project
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Th…

    The project is led by New York Times journalist Nikole Hannah-Jones, who claims that the main goal of the American Revolution and the War for Independence was protection of slavery.

    I love this article that she wrote:

    http://news.leportale.com/doc?id…
    "I find it hard to believe that any number of the white race can have the audacity and hypocrisy to call any other culture savage. The white race is the biggest murderer, rapist, pillager, and thief of the modern world. Europeans have colonized and destroyed the indigenous populations on every continent of this planet. They have committed genocide against cultures that have never offended them in their greed and insatiable desire to control and dominate every non-white culture.

    Christopher Columbus and those like him were no different than Hitler. The crimes they committed were unnecessarily cruel and can only be described as acts of the devil. Africans had been to the Americas long before Columbus or any Europeans. The difference is that Africans had the decency and respect for human life to learn from the Native Americans and trade technology with them. The pyramids of the Aztecs and the great stone heads of the Olmecs are lasting monuments to the friendship of these two peoples. But as David Walker wrote in his Appeal in 1829, the white men acted “more like devils than accountable men ... whites have always been an unjust, jealous, unmerciful, avaricious, and bloodthirsty set of beings, always seeking power and authority.” It was not enough for whites to come to the Americas and learn, they looked upon the native people as inferior and a people to be annihilated. Their lasting monument was the destruction and enslavement of two races of people.

    Using Christianity as their excuse, the white race denied the native people their humanity. Not only did they rape and murder the indigenous peoples of America, but they killed off many more by introducing diseases which came from filth and uncleanliness to the native people. The white race used deceit and trickery, warfare and rape, to steal the land from the people that had lived here for thousands and thousands of years. Over and over again, whites made peace treaties with the Native Americans, telling them that if they moved just this one last time and gave up their land to the greedy settlers just this one last time they would never have to move again. It was common knowledge that the white man’s word could not be trusted.

    Even today, the descendants of these savage people pump drugs and guns into the black community, pack black people into the squalor of segregated urban ghettos, and continue to be bloodsuckers in our communities. Yes, it was Columbus that set the platforms for these racist American institutions. A devil calling someone a savage is like the pot calling the kettle black."

    She was awarded the Pulitzer Prize for Commentary in 2020.

    Amazing how people who position themselves as far-left activists show all signs of a totalitarian cult. The BLM movement has long reached the mark of "righteous", but I think it is closely approaching the mark of "sacred".

    Why am I sceptical that BLM will benefit black people in any way? The core of everything that is wrong with America is social inequality, but because it is forbidden to talk about social classes in America, the fight goes under the banner of racial struggle. The ghettos will not get any better, since for the most part its the structure of the economy which keeps them there.

    You can say this is also a crisis of capitalism in America -- corporate police, corporate prisons, corporate healthcare, corporate education, corporate everything -- you let the market steer the society, but the results are rediculously backward for any industralized country in the 21st century. What you see here is history breaking America's bones to fit together with the rest of the civilized first world.
    All news for today

    • seem like the anti-BLM is getting more worked up tho. look at the frequency of their posts. trying hard to disprove it.pango
    • "Why am I sceptical that BLM will benefit black people in any way?" ya well its not about you. so dont you worry about it.pango
    • One thing will benefit black people -- America has to be rebuilt and become more socialist. And if it doesn't happen, Americans will continuously eat shitdrgs
    • and have sorrows in their lives for decades to come. It won't happen naturally through elections, so a big and shocking event has to happendrgs
    • A lot of what you’re saying is true. This IS about having those discussions you say are forbidden. It’s ABOUT what you say should be addressed. It’s all if thatmonospaced
    • Anyone painting BLM as a cult or anything close to it is probably missing the point which you have actually described well.monospaced
    • i found you text a bit odd... on a bit of the crazy. i think your comment strange about socialism though. you cite many sources of central gov power choices you
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    • find terrible. hitler from queens authority to find new lands. you dont like it but want us to embrace it. who is your ideal ruler and what hapens when they die
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    • What started as a protest against police violence (which I support) has taken on a broader role of settling scores between blacks and whitesdrgs
    • And because this is America, the result will be more latent racism and resentment against black people, this is all I'm trying to saydrgs
    • And if you really want to settle scores you need to rebuild everything from the ground updrgs
    • Racist America is like Trump voters, the more you criticize Trump, the more they support him. Same with hidden racism.
      BLM will create a counter reaction
      drgs
    • i feel differently. i think BLM is drawing out the closet racists, who would have been hard to spot normally cuz they're polite.pango
    • Hey man, i have foam disorder. Don't foam shame me.tank02
    • Personally I enjoy hearing people trying to socially analyze USA from the outside.yuekit
    • And I agree, American style capitalism is at the root of the problem. Would be very interesting to see what happens if BLM activists start calling out specificyuekit
    • companies that profiteer off poor black AND white people. Naming and shaming businesses that prey on poor communities rather than focusing on statues andyuekit
    • Aunt Jemima. Would mainstream media still support them then?yuekit
    • However by same token I would definitely not say that BLM is bad or write off the whole movement because they toppled the wrong statue or some woman wroteyuekit
    • something. Who cares ultimately? There are a lot of different people and viewpoints so of course it's going to be messy.yuekit
    • What is interesting is that a single video clip sparked this whole social movement/ pressure campaign. This has a lot of potential if directed in the right way.yuekit
    • One video ... I'd argue it was just one video among many, and trailing decades and centuries of history of the same type of treatment. Rodney King was another.monospaced
    • Drgs I am mostly angry because you really cherrypick facts in fashion that suits you belief. And than the next post you act as openminded, and than the next daytank02
    • same entitled stuff. You are like a rollercoaster man.tank02
    • west africans couldn't get to Cape Verde but somehow got to americas?hotroddy
    • slave trade enriched their culture and made them the international race they r today. Focus on the positive!hotroddy
    • slave trade... and focus on the positive....
      what a cunt
      pango
    • or we can be like you pango and dwell on it.hotroddy
    • like how like to dwell on thanksgiving, and cristobal colon. real productive!hotroddy
    • naw drgs. i dont by your argument. i dont think there is any race issues here. are at least no more so than anywhere in the world.
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    • talking chinese uighurs, chinese, japanese, jews, hispanics, etc etc. This is all liberal media, who has drummed up so much irrational hate for a man
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    • timed with lockups and excess funding. We now have a a time bomb of of irrational rage to unleash. which i still think media is gonna be bummed in because its l
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    • a loud minority. i also think its terrible medias roll in the politics of it all. it should be showcasing the BS, but well through democratic ran edu
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    • got enough suckers into journo school. Does make me wonder will a portion of us regain mental capacity if biden wins?
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    • a guy who well is senile and dems are using as a pawn to establish a VP that is picked and no nomination needed.
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    • would peopel unite in liek oh orange guy gone and than be able to see the BS theyre blinded too. Or will everyone double down faster and harder into USA china
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    • style of fascism.
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    • We'll seedrgs
    • God grant me the courage to tune it out. But going to be an I retesting rest of year. Just waiting for the hammer to drop on the real dem candidate. The VP oick
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