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    • lol, what a stupid question.
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    • What’s stupid about it?mort_
    • Nothing is stupid about it.Turboslacker
    • I wish more people would ask thisfuturefood
    • We're here because QBN is the best spot on the interwebz, that's why.Krassy
    • I wish more animals would ask this.mort_
    • Because our ancestors won the natural selection gamedrgs
    • Why not?yuekit
    • for the lolzGardener
    • Stupid ass question.monospaced
    • @drgs Natural selection explains how we’re here. The question is why?mort_
    • mort, "why" is our brains' way of making sense of the world. There is no why floating out there in space somewhere.yuekit
    • Unless you believe in god, in which case you already answered the question.yuekit
    • Why am I here?Ianbolton
    • @mort_ Nature is indifferent and does not ask the question why. For our species as a whole the life is meaningless, we are just a complicated form of lichendrgs
    • On individual level, the meaning of life is to find a mate and procreatedrgs
    • That’s a common atheist perspective @drgs. Personally, I suspect there may be more to it than that. (I’m not religious nor believe in god).mort_
    • The idea that there has to be a reason or meaning is ludicrous and based on nothing but a desire and a hunch.monospaced
    • Reproduction is enabled by desire. Maybe desire for existential knowledge is a motivator towards some higher purpose or finding our true nature.mort_
    • No. No it is not. Reproduction is a part of all life forms on this planet. It’s natural as anything.monospaced
    • Our true nature is in all likeliness just what you see. We are species of apes and nothing more. Why is that not sufficient and amazing enough?monospaced
    • It’s enabled by desire. You’re right in it enables. But the desire is to fulfill the purpose of reproduction. Which in turn fuels the process of life.monospaced
    • Are you saying the desire to fuck is natural but the desire to know more about our existence is unnatural?mort_
    • I want to underline there is a difference between life of our species as a whole, and life of each individual. So, need to be specific when asking the questiondrgs
    • If you're asking what to do in life, its easy: your reward centers are programmed for one purpose, and you cannot be truly happy until you fulfill those crudedrgs
    • biological needs.drgs
    • Fulfilling those biological needs do not make you truly happy.mort_
    • Start asking random people in the street "what was the happiest moment in your life". The are two groups of people: "the day I became a parent" anddrgs
    • basically everyone else. Sure, there are exceptions, if your kid is an imbecile etc, but its a simple and worthy goal to have in lifedrgs
    • The question for me is in the broadest sense. Why is any of this here. And at the species level. Why have humans developed the capacity to question existence.mort_
    • "What is the meaning of life" is a question which looks ahead, as if something has been planned.drgs
    • Why does anything exist at all is an interesting question, but maybe unanswerable.yuekit
    • Why do humans question existence is not that mysterious...it's just an artifact of how our brains work.yuekit
    • But the reason why we are here goes backwards: We are here because all previous life which was not vigorous enough, simply disappeareddrgs
    • We are here because we are descendants of life forms which simply chose to live (without any reason to)drgs
    • If you want to get really specific, everything is just a series of chemical reactions.yuekit
    • It started out simple and a few billion years later, here we are.yuekit
    • That doesn’t account for the ‘hard problem’ of consciousness.mort_
    • Well there are lots of lifeforms that are conscious in different ways...even plants have a form of consciousness through electrical signals.yuekit
    • I don't think consciousness necessarily indicates anything beyond the physical. But true we don't understand it, there might be things we will never understand.yuekit
    • For sure!mort_
    • Derp. The desire to reproduce. It’s natural. It’s what ALL life strives for, conscious or not. To act like we are exempt is fun, but not based on evidence.monospaced
    • Consciousness isn’t really a hard problem when you realize it comes in many flavors and degrees. It’s not unique to humans.monospaced
    • Check out Daniel Dennett's theory of consciousness. It's a bit depressing maybe, but seems plausible.yuekit
    • Consciousness is a hard problem if you take the view that it’s an emergent property of matter. This can’t be proven by neuroscience.mort_
    • Another interesting view is that matter is contained within consciousness. Reality is entirely subjective.mort_
    • I thought we were having an interesting conversation. Why the derp comment @monospaced?mort_
    • @yuekit Dennett’s consciousness-as-ill... theory is very plausible.mort_
    • *cnsciousness as illusionmort_

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