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    "Latest data from ONS 30 mins ago https://ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat… Just drawn this extraordinary, and shocking, graph. Why the massive rise in non-covid deaths?"

    https://twitter.com/d_spiegel/st…

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    • what about those bars going under 0 ?
      Zombies?      Bennn
    • 'a negative excess of mortality over a five year average' - ie. less people died than usual over those weeks.Nairn
    • covid isn't being mentioned in a lot of deaths is it? Is it to do with home/carehome deaths etc not being included? If there is no or low testing how can theyfadein11
    • be identified? I may be wrong though. But I imagine that grey bar is covid related.fadein11
    • *those grey barsfadein11
    • Yeah, that's the point of the graph - to estimate how many deaths in total can be attributed to C19 even if not already stated as suchNairn
    • also: http://euromomo.eu/Nairn
    • ..which, in turn can be used to estimate total C19 cases, despite lack of comprehensive testing.Nairn
    • Ah I see, my apologies, didn't click tbh which wasn't helpful before commenting. Had seen something similar earlier.fadein11
    • Can't find it now but saw reality may be double official figures. Care homes may account for around 30% of deaths.fadein11
    • Could be due to people staying away from GP's/hospitals, or unable to get immediate attention from GP/hospitals, resulting in more deaths.shapesalad
    • that may be part of it as well.fadein11
    • the yt london doctor said, uk only counts death in hospitals as covid-19 deaths. he didn't know why. death at home or care homes are not counted as covid deathsuan
    • https://youtu.be/Na5…
      Dr. John Campbell      uan
    • the stories coming out of care homes are shocking. How long has SOCIAL CARE CRISIS been flashing in the gvmnts face. Still being ignored.Fax_Benson
    • agreed faxfadein11
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