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  • Bennn1

    "The MacBook Pro has ‘Fisher-Price’ audio quality and most consumer audio sucks"

    - Neil Young

    > https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/…

    • Every time I see people listening music with the white Apple earbuds i think to myself, poor people.Bennn
    • Neil Young sounds like hard work.Nairn
    • The MacBook Pro sounds better than most laptops on the market though.monospaced
    • pedants will pedant i guesshans_glib
    • oh wait, Neil Young was behind Pono, an iPod competitor, and failed.monospaced
    • https://qz.com/17116…monospaced
    • grumpy old man yells at cloudKrassy
    • "Well, they’re starting on a MacBook, recording straight to MP3." - Love Neil but he's talking through his arse.kingsteven
    • Also, nothing wrong with apple earbuds Bennn you fucking snob. get a life...kingsteven
    • It's weird how in the visual space we're all pushing better resolution but on the audio side people balk at getting better quality.zarkonite
    • Also I'm with Bennn, the apple earbuds sound thin and shitty.zarkonite
    • if you think the white Apple earbuds are good, kingsteven, I pity you. You dont know whats good sound.Bennn
    • haha, i have hifis in 3 rooms with speakers over £1k, i'm sitting now in front of 3 sets of studio monitors worth £2.5k, i have 3 sets of cans over £100...kingsteven
    • Apple Airpods are shit sound.monospaced
    • but when i'm walking my dog i use wired earbuds because i'm listening to fucking spotify on a DAC the size of the head of a pin.kingsteven
    • it is convenience! fidelity does not equal enjoyment of music. if i thought that, i would give up making it.kingsteven
    • neil young talking this way about modern music is no different than someone his age in the 60s criticising for distorting his guitar... old man yells at iCloudkingsteven
    • All laptop speakers are shit, is this news somehow? Also, fuck Neil Young.section_014
    • i'll criticise the fuck out of a soundsystem in a club and i've given old hi-fi gear and turntables to mates listening to records on crosleys but laptop ADCs?kingsteven
    • Oak Felder whos referenced in the article is sitting with an apogee quad interface beside his macbook. they work with ios too... even the apple lightning jackkingsteven
    • does 96kHz 24bit, the adcs are grand for what they need to do and will keep getting better.kingsteven
    • rock dinosaurs have these meltdowns now and again. Roger Daltrey had a hige one at the 80's because he didn't understand the revolution he wasn't part of.fadein11
    • does he have a greatest hits coming out?fadein11
    • huge*fadein11
    • end of*fadein11
    • You're right, king, fidelity doesn't equal music enjoyment. But that's separate from the fact that the sound from AirPods are shit. They're as bad as $50 junkmonospaced
    • Clearly you know good sound so you understand this. I know a lot of people that are totally okay with Airpod sound quality. They just don't know better.monospaced
    • Conversely, he's saying Fisher-Price has MacBook audio quality. Huge win for Fisher-Price, I'd say.sarahfailin
    • haha flol sarahNairn
    • "They just don't know better." ah yeahsted
    • Computers don't compress audio. Software does. I love Neil but this cause of his is pointless.CyBrainX
    • He knew Pono wasn't going to make money. He was just getting attention for his cause.CyBrainX
    • Ironically, Donald Trump invested in Pono.CyBrainX
    • He's acting as if the sound and music industry doesn't use pro grade hardware with Macs, which they obviously do. Expecting it built in is ridiculousmonospaced
    • After reading the article, he isn't talking about the speakers. He's talking about the quality of sound in/out. And on that point he's exaggerating insanely.monospaced
    • AirPods are garbage for music. Also spending money on audio equipment doesn’t make you any more knowledgeable about sound quality.ben_
    • People like what they like though, it’s all good.ben_
    • It's all subjective I mean I get paid for mixing music and end up in these conversations with folks proclaiming the quality of their bluetooth soundbar...kingsteven
    • Or proclaiming the quality of a shit modern vinyl pressing when I'm here deep listining test pressings... most folks know shit all about sound quality andkingsteven
    • technology and know shit all about music and just spout this rookie audiophile nonsence all day. It has nothing to do with how music is created and enjoyed.kingsteven
    • Neil youngs best music was recorded live in a barn and got huge from folks listening on mono dansettes. I'll work for weeks on mixes to make them sound as goodkingsteven
    • but folks need to wind their necks in when talking about consumer audio quality it's generally driven by the size of your dic than the size of your dackingsteven
    • A critique of a pop music mix through your teeth via a vibrating lolly pop is just as valid as one from a single malt sipper in front of their floorstanders.kingsteven

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