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Out of context: Reply #354

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  • i_monk1

    • ..."the only reason Bolivia has been able to thrive in recent years is that it has incorporated elements of a free market economy."...Morning_star
    • "...the IMF, that champion of the free market, concedes that Bolivia’s socialists have been more effective in combating extreme poverty..."i_monk
    • ↑ battle of one liners makes noone smart.pr2
    • LOL at socialism vs capitalism. it's about thugs, gangs, they don't care about ideologies, except they need them to influence and fool the public opinionuan
    • I can't pretend to know what's going on but I read this, which may or may not be accurate
      https://systemicalte…
      Fax_Benson
    • yep, no need for the side show... the relevance to capitalism: https://i.imgur.com/…kingsteven
    • @pr2: Exactly. Any unsourced quote can be countered by another.i_monk
    • @kingsteven Domise was a promising candidate for city council a few years ago, but was #metoo'd (all charges withdrawn after).i_monk
    • @i_monk: Exactly. "...the first post in the sidebar on QBN is alway the most accurate and insightful..." - Karl MarxMorning_star
    • a coworker's wife is currently in Bolivia, she says exactly the opposite of these tweets, Evo thugs are the ones burning buses and creating chaosernexbcn
    • Evo wanted to introduce indefinite reelection, he lost a referendum to enable it, then the supreme court allowed him to be a candidate for reelection...ernexbcn
    • ...then he stole the election, same script as Chavez in Venezuela, once these thugs reach power they won't let it goernexbcn
    • I'm not sure 'socialist president' is even that relevant in relation to Morales the MAS are a mixed bag. The other lot seem like a christo-fascist nightmare...kingsteven
    • Holy shit. You mean that this is a complex situation and placing the problem squarely at capitalisms feet is a bit daft. Who'd have thought.Morning_star
    • Expropriating lands and nationalizing companies isn't socialist to you? Stealing elections and Arming civilians with guns to kill dissidents doesn't concern youhotroddy
    • no, i'm saying the OP touches on the part of the story that relates to capitalism and the sidenotes are daft.kingsteven
    • Bullshit, Bolivia's GDP has been shrinking lately... their lithium mining operations are in shambles. They're playing the numbers game like most socialistzarkonite
    • governments by giving free money to poor people and pretending like that's a solution to poverty. As soon as the economy tumbles the cash faucets get turned offzarkonite
    • for the poor and the illusion of progress is gone. The solution is job creation, not re-distributing wealth.zarkonite
    • Oh and let's not ignore the fact that almost all of the gains in wealth for Bolivia come from natural gas, you know, that thing that's killing the planet.zarkonite
    • hotroddy i'd say hes an anti-capitalist who's party is propped up by socialists and anarchists. nationalisation is not inherently socialist...kingsteven
    • that would be socialisation... he was acting to stop the exploitation of reserves by multinationals but perused and obtained better deals with them...kingsteven
    • by giving mining rights to russian and chinese companies instead?hotroddy
    • there are two world views: i. authoritarian and ii. democratic. By siding with Evo you are siding with authoritarian (ie. China, Russia, Cuba,Turkey etchotroddy
    • hah, who is siding with Evo? i'm saying it's a shitshow. im saying your wrong and clutching for a political link to communism. remember when russia offloaded itkingsteven
    • its US debt and near crashed the economy, or looked at the trillions of US debt owned by China?kingsteven
    • i'm not sure what your point is. The only truly communist country left is Cuba. And they live like dogs.hotroddy
    • US debt owned by china is a result of Globalization and if you don't agree w it then you must be a trump supporter.hotroddy
    • i'm not taking sides in a shit sandwich.kingsteven

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