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  • i_monk7

    Meet the Money Behind The Climate Denial Movement

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/s…

    There is a very well-funded, well-orchestrated climate change-denial movement, one funded by powerful people with very deep pockets. In a new and incredibly thorough study, Drexel University sociologist Robert Brulle took a deep dive into the financial structure of the climate deniers, to see who is holding the purse strings.

    According to Brulle's research, the 91 think tanks and advocacy organizations and trade associations that make up the American climate denial industry pull down just shy of a billion dollars each year, money used to lobby or sway public opinion on climate change and other issues.

    “The anti-climate effort has been largely underwritten by conservative billionaires,” says the Guardian, “often working through secretive funding networks. They have displaced corporations as the prime supporters of 91 think tanks, advocacy groups and industry associations which have worked to block action on climate change.”

    • Nearly a billion dollars a year is flowing into the organized climate change counter-movement. Thanks Republitards!utopian
    • yeah but those greedy scientists.inteliboy
    • And the money behind the climate religion movement? You idiot.Hayoth
    • there is a case to fund lobbyists to battle nonsense. curiosu about the cliamte "denial" label though. Is the money truely provided by climate change deniers...deathboy
    • the same outcome of peopel who believe they can control climate through regulation and keep a status quo...deathboy
    • you don't fund lobbyists to battle nonsense. you hire lobbyists to push your own business' interests.uan
    • politics is business uan. it deosnt need to make sense if its an issue to be sold and campaigned upondeathboy
    • also there is quite a business in carbon credits. hell fuzzy fincials helped float tesla to an illusion of profitdeathboy
    • but it was just millions sold to casino to reduce tax incomes while providing money to losing businessdeathboy
    • and as a company take subaru and arbitrary mpg levels fucking up cars and making people take shortcuts as the only way ( also VW). is it in best interests fordeathboy
    • hakf engineered solutions to arbitrary probels that create faulty transmission or unstable motors? it is in business interestes to fight arbitrary legislationdeathboy
    • because it changes the market. no longer is developing the best product ppl want to buy the goal. its making profit on a product behind arbitray goals and ruledeathboy
    • in some cases developing a product no one wants and taking tax credits for it as ony profit.deathboy
    • doesn't change the fact that polluting the planet is bad for you and the rest of us. but hey, go on singing your 'free markets' anthem.uan
    • it doesn't matter, because green technology is superior and will succeed.uan
    • lol@deathboyutopian
    • Relax, Brulle's also studying the money behind the climate change and environmentalist movements.i_monk
    • I know you rightwingers are all about 'balance' and 'both sides'.i_monk
    • @hayoth "Climate religion movement"? Wow you're dumb.garbage
    • And yay, we get to play the deathboy game. First word, last word, don't read anything in between.garbage
    • "There profit."garbage
    • haha uan way to move the goal post. yes uan polluting is "bad" for all we know to our current existence. But to ignore free markets and go all dictatorshipdeathboy
    • and medievel in the name of all that is green is retarded. even half steppin with subsidies has been a waste that only helped the upper social class while imposdeathboy
    • ing greater costs on the lower class. have u ever wondered if the balance between rich and poor in the eco realm of free amrket is those with the most to losedeathboy
    • might try to have cake and eat it too financing regualtion that benefits them and hurts the majority all for a "greater" causedeathboy
    • "haha cause"garbage
    • these flippin looser redumblicas are already as horrific as the climate will become..neverscared
    • haha whos a redumblicas never? sound like a old bat saying the mexican help are stealing but she has no help.deathboy
    • "these help"garbage
    • Supplemental links:
      https://study.com/ac…
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    • https://study.com/ac…garbage
    • haha garbage act like you cant understand what i said becuase of punctuation. oh shit i didnt capitalize my i either u madd brodeathboy
    • if you want to discredit what im saying craft an arguement or provide something of substance or you keep doing u. just seems juvenile and uncouthdeathboy
    • You haven't said anything of substance yet.i_monk
    • wait all my comments about nature of lobbyists and sides had no substance? what do i need to provide numbers of pro climate change proceeds. i believe its moredeathboy
    • than the "anti" by a large sumdeathboy
    • That would be a start. You make a lot of unsubstantiated claims in these threads and ask everyone to disprove you, begging the question.i_monk
    • hmm well it is tough. not much research into domestic and global lobbying towards green initiatives.deathboy
    • har dto calculate such things liek diesal taxe sin the 80s to todays subsidies for solar and wind. Or even electric vehicles.deathboy
    • and even if there was research it would be paid and highly biased. but i'd say with what we are seeing globally is a hot untapped market for corpsdeathboy
    • to extract wealth from the public out of fearmongering. really interested to see what the kook at the ecb does.deathboy
    • but... if the anti is a billion industry... ev credits alone is in tune to more of 15-20 billion besides all the other cardon and subsidy trades. I think thedeathboy
    • pro climate change industry globally is in the trillions.deathboy
    • especially if you look at m2 expansion and for political goals.deathboy
    • but guess have to wait and see if your writer ever publishes the other side that gives some sor tof relevevance to his research. liek saying 30 degrees iscold..deathboy
    • and than never telling anyone in what relation that is cold too.deathboy

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