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- lowimpakt6
grown adults (mostly men for some fucked up reason) getting triggered by an articulate 16 year old girl.
I mean, what kind of a degenerate wanker would you have to be to slag off an inoffensive teenager for wanting to improve the planet?
- I can think of a type...monospaced
- What degenerate wankers use a child as a human shield to push their agenda? As if she's doing this on her own volition... ghouls.IRNlun6
- You tell us if you're making the claim.T-Dawg
- what IRN said.
Quit using children to present your message—grow a set and answer the questions from the other side instead of using a child to rebuke them/you.PonyBoy - So you guys are saying that she shouldn't have a platform, and that people that agree with her message shouldn't support that platform?T-Dawg
- "human shield to push their agenda" - Greta is asking people to listen to the science of climate change. Only stupid fucks don't want to understand science.lowimpakt
- No she shouldn't have a 'platform'. She's a CHILD ffs!IRNlun6
- Sounds like the same old conspiratorial thinking, where there's always some 'puppet master' pulling strings somewhere, but no one can point to who it isT-Dawg
- It's gotta be george soros lolT-Dawg
- Her world will be worse than ours and she doesn't get a say?pango
- exactly. get mad at those people then. not the kid.inteliboy
- also these right wing nuts must all collectively read the same news sources, because they're all parroting the exact same thing. mindless sheep.inteliboy
- they don't all read same news sources. all the news sources read the same thing.pango
- t-dawg its anyone identifying with political identity and media buzz. no big bad guy is needed.deathboy
- bigger issue is why a dumb kid is allowed to speak on big issues. has discourse chased the trend and devolved that all issues are discussed on level of childrendeathboy
- and i say dumb because she is selling a point with absolute disregard to rationale basis of anything she is saying. can't talk science when you spit opiniondeathboy
- but i guess that is the media these days. figure what dumb shit can be elevated to that level that generates buzz and ride the wave. context, sense, reason,deathboy
- none of it matters. give a kid a speech to read to the UN and ignore pakistan/india open nuke threats. real dangers.. pffdeathboy
- 10 o clock news? or like a car crash side show. so bad you have to watch. social media connects so instead of telling 1-2 people opinion in time before forgottedeathboy
- n it spread and chain reacts. how the medium changes the messagedeathboy
- "i say dumb because she is selling a point with absolute disregard to rationale basis of anything she is saying." - Sounds like... deathboy.ben_
- Regarding sounding like opinion all coming from the same source, we're all in an information bubble in one way or other.IRNlun6
- If you don't think you are, you're probably the most susceptible to mis-information.IRNlun6
- Yeah but how is it that American conservatives all ended up as climate change deniers or skeptics?yuekit
- Are we supposed to believe that Trump voters and Fox News viewers are better informed than actual climate scientists?yuekit
- Hopefully you guys would agree that it makes zero sense for a scientific issue with like this to correlate with which political party you support.yuekit
- I find many conservative just question the extent or severity of the problem. Many just disagree with how to address it.IRNlun6
- she's smarter than you, deathboymonospaced
- Conservatives don't believe it because they are owned by corporations who have no reason to fix the problem, it's just that simple.ben_
- @death yeah, but I thought all that stuff was obvious. No one's looking to greta for answers, she's a feel good story and an inspiration for kids to get into poT-Dawg
- politicsT-Dawg
- It's really not that simple. There is no current viable alternatives that could replace coal or fossil fuels at a large scale.IRNlun6
- @IRNlun6 yes conservatives have very nuanced views like "it's cold outside...SO MUCH FOR GLOBAL WARMING!!"...lol.yuekit
- "WE ONLY HAVE 10 YEARS!!!" works both ways...IRNlun6
- You're seriously going to pretend that the current U.S. government cares at all or has any kind of plan to deal with this issue? It's a total joke.yuekit
- No viable alternatives? Look there are goofballs on either side of this debate, but one thing is clear from the science, and that's that it is getting worseben_
- You also keep misrepresenting the 12 years thing. No one said the world is going to end in 10 years. Try looking into what it actually refers to.yuekit
- not better. And there are people out there trying to address it, while the Conservatives by and large are acting like it's some big conspiracy to take "cheap"ben_
- In the current orange man bad circus, no I don't see any meaningful legislation being proposed.IRNlun6
- energy away from the masses, when in reality it's more like a conspiracy to get us to blindly accept wringing out the last drops of fossil fuels while theyben_
- figure out how to charge us for breathing.ben_
- Misrepresenting how? It's claimed that if nothing is done then in 10-12 we'll be in a point of no return.IRNlun6
- Ah yes, if only the Dems would be nice to Trump, he would fix the problem that he says isn't happening.yuekit
- https://en.wikipedia… - no alternatives... ffsben_
- There are no viable alternatives to replace coal and fossil fuels at scale in 10-12 years time. And certainly not in India or China.IRNlun6
- Certainly not solar or wind power. Hydroelectric or tidal power is a regional option, but battery and delivery means is still a problem.IRNlun6
- This is an engineering issue just as much as any.IRNlun6
- https://www.theguard…yuekit
- ^ As I mentioned in another thread, it's about limiting temperature increases to avoid the worst outcomes.yuekit
- Curious as to why you would interpret that as stupidity or hysteria when it's basically just repeating what climate scientists are saying.yuekit
- Yes of course, it's a huge engineering challenge. Which we are making zero progress towards under the current leadership.yuekit
- 'limiting temperature increases', solar requires mining which requires existing energy sources to manufacture. It's also a very toxic process.IRNlun6
- Wind requires tons of concrete which retains heat. They also don't have a long life span.IRNlun6
- And it's not about being nice to Trump or Republicans. Dems currently control the House. They have the power to propose legislation.IRNlun6
- No one said it's easy. Apparently the report goes into how they think it could be achieved with a combination of different technologies.yuekit
- Main point here though, is that the 12 year thing isn't fake or made up as you seemed to be suggesting.yuekit
- Absolutely, and in my opinion requires a calm, rational, methodological approach. I don't think we disagree here.IRNlun6
- Well the Dems have actually proposed a number of different things. Maybe you can explain to us Trump's proposal for climate change.yuekit
- ben_ if you can ever challenge my rationale base do it. I don't care if im wrong. quite happy to be proved wrong.deathboy
- but please don't try to just pull quote shit and add your own context. did you not learn in public schools that shit will get you a D. You need to actual showdeathboy
- something. Like you could say as i think someone else said, its not about being rationale accepting she is not, just being a poster boy for a cause and beingdeathboy
- popular. not sure though a solid argument considering UN audience and mainstream media of a kid poster child being pimped for causes.deathboy
- causes that are very lucrative and full of special interests.statewide, federal and nation base. Legislation to wrangle say india or china and slow growthdeathboy
- the climate is the last thing of concern among the real players. its only the narrative the simps get played.deathboy
- but ben i agree climate is changing and we are approaching a period relative to our existence seems monumental, but check your vostak coresdeathboy
- check your geology rocks samples. climate change is like an extended season we are use too. we are in warming period. period. shit is gonna change and coastaldeathboy
- cities swallowed with or without humans. i find seashells in the deserts near here. hundreds of miles away from the ocean. think about it and dont be a muppetdeathboy
- db, I can't challenge your "rationale base" because all you have are these soliloquies you write that are devoid of facts... just "evidence" and calls to digben_
- through the rats nest that are your thoughts. The only point that you are clear on is that you don't believe there's much we can do to stem global warming.ben_
- So, have fun with your opinion, maybe someone will care if you can convince fox news to become your patron.ben_
- YES! _ben you did get the main point. Did u understand that it's also based on scientific findings and a little common sense? That the idea of human climatedeathboy
- is a farce? Hard to control room temperatures in most buildings let alone the world. Also did you get there will be a lot of collateral dmg when attemptingdeathboy
- such feats on whims of political candidates who only care about getting a goddamn job and paying bills. they could careless about anythign past their termdeathboy
- outside self interests. And above I meant "Human Climate CONTROL"... leave out the control people fill in the blank and message changes...deathboy
- what i'd like from people like you is to take you far and actually put it all together in a plan and theory and look at cost and efforts needed todeathboy
- create the world thermostat that is peddled out of fear. what science or measures or even abiltiy to control carbon through so many natural catalysts planetarydeathboy
- and interplanetray even exist? do you really believe humans can stop natural cliamte change patterns? So far evidence seesm we may play a part in progression.deathboy
- but the science also seems to show we are but a bit player in the longer models. a hiccup. hell dinosaurs may be as much a hiccup. big poops big gases...deathboy
- but come on either admit you think we can stop climate change like superman with a plan or quit half steppin and blaming me for realitydeathboy
- Holy shit 70+ notes already. And of course deathboy is here.pango