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    Hey robo, let's talk. I'm sitting through a big render, and you're into debate. Let's make the best of our time.

    You seem to be framing this as a sort of "gotcha" moment to the American Left.

    Please explain to me why I should be upset over a not-my-country's leader (and if you're being honest, not-your-country's leader either) doing dumb shit, and not.. hang on, let me see what Trump has done today, because I actually haven't checked the news.

    ...

    Oh, he threatened Ukraine if they didn't help dig dirt on Biden. Yeah, that's not more pressing.

    My opening notes would be the following:

    - I've always viewed Trudeau as an opportunist centrist at best. I don't worship him like some golden cow.

    - The golden cow you worship is such a professional fuckup that it's hard to keep up with his fuckups, and you're disingenuously using this story as a strawgrasp to gEt ThE LiBz.

    - You are absolutely shitting up the thread, so keep your comments to the right. Here's a symbol, just in case you get lost:

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    • is this a US politics only thread now?Gnash
    • I'd agree with you on Trudeau. He was able to hash out the USMCA trade deal. Although I doubt it will be ratified by the US before the election.IRNlun6
    • The black face shit though, wow.IRNlun6
    • Ukraine is very complicated and goes back to before Trumps election.IRNlun6
    • No debating garbage, blackface was an historically American faux pax from the early part of the 20th century. It should not have happened in 21st century.robotron3k
    • Robo al of a sudden taking the moral high groundtank02
    • Ukraine is what sparked the ongoing anti-Russia sentiment in the US. Prior to that there was an effort to have friendlier trade relations.IRNlun6
    • Do you use the computer that is rendering for other simultaneous tasks? Doesn't that make it slower to render?Maaku
    • That was of course until the US involvement in the Maidan Ukrainian revolution.IRNlun6
    • @Maaku My desktop is rendering. I've got too many computers. Check"How many screens?" thread.garbage
    • VP Biden, his son, and likely others have allegedly profited as a result.IRNlun6
    • @robo Nobody is saying that blackface isn't offensive. I'm saying that you're co-opting this as a political high horse to justify your shit worldview.garbage
    • I'm saying that you're more concerned with "HA I WIN" because you view politics as a competition. So go ahead and school me, I'm waiting.garbage
    • he's attempting to paint the entire liberal population as racist because of this man's actionsmonospaced
    • @Gnash Obviously not US politics only, but robo is being transparent here. I have some free time, and it's not hard to call him out on his bullshit.garbage
    • deflecting from and consciously ignoring the deeply ingrained racism that courses through american conservatism, nationalism and trump's voter basemonospaced
    • Should Democrats get a pass for their own racist historical past?IRNlun6
    • @mono Yep, and I don't even consider Trudeau part of the left. It would be like if I said "Haha Biden's a perv, the Tea Party should be ashamed!!"garbage
    • @IRN, are you talking about the party behind slavery? Yeah, that was conservatives, not the Democratic party of today.monospaced
    • That's not an actual argument.monospaced
    • No, that is America. Democrat and Republican. This country has not honestly comes to terms with its past.IRNlun6
    • "Trudeau as an opportunist centrist" - spot on, just like Macron. Friendly, youngish faces peddling the same failing neo-lib agenda.fadein11
    • As a whole, no. It's almost like a giant part of this country is willfully not coming to terms with its past.garbage
    • And if you're trying to make the "Lincoln was a Republican", then I should warn you that the Dems and Republicans swapped sides.garbage
    • The Republican Party was initially formed as a *gasp* progressive party that pushed for civil rights, infrastructure reform..garbage
    • ..welfare and aid programs, and overall a larger federal government. It's embarrassing that the right tries to claim Lincoln.garbage
    • Not defending Republicans at all. I don't have faith or trust in either party.IRNlun6
    • What racist historical past of the Democrats are you referring to?monospaced
    • if it was found trump did black face, it'd be crickets in here.inteliboy
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