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  • aslip10

    So I have a side biz or two and one of them hosts educational seminars for paying students. Anyhoo, my business partners hosted one of our events last weekend at a really nice facility for business meetings and day retreats. It's this amazing Japanese style, zen place with historic sculptures and art in the conference room. The building is surrounded by trees and beautiful Japanese style gardens. An all-around peaceful and calm place.

    The seminar kicked off in the morning, covering lots of ground and goes well. Just after lunch it continues. One of the attendees exits to room for a restroom break. Moments later, a loud "pop" is heard from another room. One of my business partners immediately knows its a gunshot and goes into lockdown mode. I don't have the details of what transpired next other than everyone in the conference room was scared shitless as my partner leaves the room to evaluate.

    My partner then finds the attendee that went to the bathroom exiting the bathroom and informing the staff that he dropped his gun while going to the bathroom and it accidentally discharged. Needless to say, by this time the police were already on their way and people were freaking out. My partner goes back to the conference room to calm everyone and explain the situation. The cops arrive and our attendee speaks with the police for a while, then proceeds to go home after his questioning. The seminar slowly gets back in order and carries on after about an hour.

    As for the damage, the bullet broke some tile and drywall in the bathroom as it ricocheted in the room. The attendee was NOT fined or reprimanded for his accidental discharging of the gun. Fast forward to Monday: We get a call from the conference center and they inform us that our business is no longer welcome at their facility.

    I have to say, I've been OK with guns in the past. I have friends and family that hunt and own guns, but I never really took to owning myself aside from a BB gun. Although I thought open-carry is unnecessary in most cases, I simply went about my business and didn't think twice about who was armed while I was at public or private events. However, this situation really pissed me off and felt very personal.

    How is it possible that any random douche can go get a gun and carry it around wherever they go and I just have to be OK with it!? This person could have harmed or killed one of my friends, other event attendees, or facility employees with his carelessness. I could have just as well been at that event too. Even without any injuries, our attendees got the scare of their lives. Furthermore, how in the actual fuck is there no fine or ticket involved for accidentally discharging a weapon? Also, who brings a gun to an educational seminar at a place like this? The argument of: "You never know when you'll need it." is completely stupid to me. As of now, "I never know when some dipshit is gonna accidentally fire off his gun". Another gun is not gonna stop that. It's going to increase the chances or more incidents.

    I'm not saying I don't believe people should have guns. I'm simply amazed that there are next to no restrictions, training, or mandatory tests for gun owners. I have to live my life trusting that everyone is going to be a safe and responsible gun owner. This guy attended our event, fucked up the facility, ended our ability to host there again and scared the shit out of everyone in the building because he had the "right to open-carry". Now we just have to be like "OK, that's a bummer."? Total BS!

    • It’s his right to be a stupid gun owner. No questions asked. That’s what they believe the constitution says.monospaced
    • "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"—hmm...
      nope... not in the constitution. :) srsly tho—if you don't like it—change it!
      PonyBoy
    • It doesn't say "... unless mono thinks you're an idiot or some Gov. prick who happens to disagree w/your politics thinks you shouldn't have arms."...PonyBoy
    • ... it just says "...shall not be infringed." Pretty clear.PonyBoy
    • You see the irony in losing rights because of a minority gun owner being irresponsible? Glad no one was hurt.BabySnakes
    • how does a gun go off by dropping it? he was just too embarrassed to admit that he was masturbating with itGnash
    • What an asshole (gun owner). I dont get american culture i would truly feel like i don't belong there. I would move.mantrakid
    • haha mantra you funny. like me saying i dont get muslim culture i'd movedeathboy
    • actually american culture is quite mroe diverse so not even liek that. I dont get australian culture and ho they tolerate with big spiders id movedeathboy
    • That's insane aslip.... Im with Mantra, I can't imagine a society where people can openly carry guns - must be nutspedromendez
    • Americans think they are all characters in a western movie or something. Bunch of lunatics :)yuekit
    • Burn the whole continent with napalm and cover what's left with 1 meter thick layer of salt, so that no life ever grows out againdrgs
    • 100% with Mantrakid. as a Canuck, I've NEVER understood the whole gun thing.
      It's fucking insane.
      exador1
    • @ponyboy The second amendment begins "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state..." - so was this guy part of a militia?zarkonite
    • and is running militias actually necessary in this day and age? the answer is no but you've got supreme court justices with dementia that think it's still 1776.zarkonite
    • I don't understand people that get license to carry, unless you really need one for a night job (truck drivers?)Maaku
    • It's illegal to have a gun in many places, you can clearly see the signs on many business and buildings, so why even bother if you have to keep it in your car?Maaku
    • Every attempt to talk about this with gun-owning friends is met with a defensive response that assumes everyone wants to take away their guns.aslip
    • Shouldn't we all be working together to make certifications and training standards for gun ownership vs. arguing for or against open-carry?aslip
    • I found out that if this conference center posts a "no-guns" sign, they could be liable for any victim of a shooting on their premises. INSANE!aslip
    • it's clearly a black and white issue for most. no nuance. no discussion.inteliboy
    • no nuance needed. sometimes ppl make mistakes. far more idiots behind wheels. cant stop mistakes. best learn to accept thatdeathboy
    • Believe strongly that ownership and conceal carry is a very personal decision. I do own guns but also VERY STRONGLY think they NEEDS to be much stronger regsDarkCover
    • More regs to purchase, potentially annual check ins or certifications, and it sure wouldn't hurt to require annual psych tests with the re-cert.DarkCover
    • Home and personal protection is one thing. Hunting and sport shooting another, and while I do own an AR i have thought about getting rid of it and starting to tDarkCover
    • there needs to be more regs on those types of guns that handguns and shotsgunsDarkCover
    • haha dark gtfo. you are telling me as a fun owner you personally want to pay and schedule annual psych tests and certifications?deathboy
    • i call all kinds of bullshit on that.deathboy

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