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    • he's a democratic socialist, and at the end of the day, acts, lives, and thrives and supports capitalism as an American, like all of usmonospaced
    • LOL. Yes Ron, selling stuff is one way to get rich. There are many more, so no it doesn't prove billionaires shouldn't pay taxes. And since you admit inequalityzarkonite
    • is inherent to the system it's only natural to want to lessen that effect with policies and laws.zarkonite
    • ron paul sucksimbecile
    • Sure some inequality is normal and natural but when THREE PEOPLE have as much money as half the country, can you really defend that on the same grounds?yuekit
    • I'm sure Ron Paul is a nice guy and probably even agrees with Sanders on many issues, but his economic theory falls apart when you look at the actual numbers.yuekit
    • Three people (Gates, Bezos and Buffet) have as much wealth as 160 million Americans. All because of their ability or were they just in the right place at theyuekit
    • right time..? Ironically it's a very pro-establishment, pro-corporate viewpoint from Ron Paul and his followers.yuekit
    • The fuck... Ron Paul is absolutely correct and none of these comments come close to arguing directly against it.
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    • I am curious to zarknites idea of other ways to get rich? Pillaging ships on the broad seas ARGH! Running daycare scam in minneapolis...
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    • To ukits stance of major players owning so much money. You have to look at how their wealth is so great? If they weren't publicly traded
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    • where would there wealth lie. I can assume you follow the script and invest and probably pushup their wealth all to push yours up
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    • Self interest. Trend chasing. Look at zoom IPO today at 49x it's annual revenue. The thing that pads the wallstreet big boys coffers more than actual product is
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    • is the small fry greed thinking they can cash in on on the success of the people they disdain. but that is only one part, monetary policy and interest rates
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    • and those that have access to capital also help widen the divide.
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    • To go back to Pauls argument, it is absolutely true. Inequality is a thing of life, and as such life exists. Bernie is a hypocrite. A conman looking for power a
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    • nd self idealized glory. His wife is a proper example of his leanings in the college realm.
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    • hell if you don't like the rich boycott the product. every dollar is a vote and its far better view of value than say a 4 year election. it is true democracy
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    • yuekit do you have a prime account you strike me as a person with one.? Hell even mono and zarkonite probably have echos too
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    • sorry bliz i don't really use votes to push agenda. think its a gimmick to appease the peasants. but a spot on post.
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    • Ron Paul drives on public roads and spent most of his career getting paid from taxpayer money, does that make him a hypocrite? Don't be silly.yuekit
    • His comments are not some great insight. Sure that's how capitalism works....wow, mind blown lol. The next step is to come to the more nuanced understandingyuekit
    • that you need some kind of redistribution as well, otherwise the system gets ridiculously unequal and undermines itself.yuekit
    • I don't have an echo. Do me a favor and quit it with references to me and your continued dumbass assumptions about people and things. Jesus christ.monospaced
    • Yeah I don't have a Prime account either and barely use Amazon. SMH.yuekit
    • ron paul isnt a hypocrite. he's pretty solid. hes so principled that his end the fed could have disastrous consequences but speaks to his principles.
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    • far as roads and infrastructure remember where the road tax money is suppose to come from. petro tax. kind of fucked up now with
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    • evs, getting subsidies and not paying share, but than again those funds are mostly slush funds. not against taxation for public works
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    • but nothing bernie says about taxation is equal or wise, or makes a lick of sense. he only offers free shit, not from him, to keep a job.
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    • good for you guys. you struck me as consumer types wanting to be on top of the trends. im not always right. but than again its just your word
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    • and on distribution... the idea capitalism gets unbalanced and needs one is myth. gov controlled capitalism causes needs for redistribution, hence socialism.
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    • gov gets involved makes capitalism perverse, creating bubbles, and it creates a feedback loop that all we need to fix it is more gov control
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    • death: you can speculate with your funds on the capital market. Once you have cash it's a lot easier to make more money. Look at the Koch brothers, they madezarkonite
    • more money with their investments than with digging for oil. That's what's creating a lot of inequality.zarkonite
    • This ridiculous notion that a market can exist without rules is dead wrong, a market IS a set of rules to being with and the normal flow of capital createszarkonite
    • monopolies. That's why we have had to come up with so many rules to encourage competition.zarkonite
    • Zark you are wrong. First Koch created value to earn money. And lets think for a second about their view to stay private. Not public. Action says more than word
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    • As far as having wealth does allow you to make more but you can also blow is well. It's about what one does with capital, not just simply having it.
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    • As far as monopolies. What monopolies have existed? And if any did gov have any role to play in creating them? I think the joke in the game monopoly is to show
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    • how hard it is to get a monopoly and the game trucks on forever. Unless jsut super lucky and get the best rolls and dumb players, but the thing is the world is
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    • much more diverse and spreads risk infinetly farther than the game
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    • Monopoly is almost an irrational fear in really free system. It can happen, but historically only with gov backing.
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    • But as far as investment plays into things. And your idea having money begets more money what do you think of passive investment
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    • and IPOs like uber coming up to market at asinine valuations. The people who most will benefit from uber going public are softbank, goldman, google.
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    • So many people investing passively due to gov perverse incentives help prop up these global giants and give more opportunity for monopoly
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    • all because the the many fell for the carrot on the stick. a way to beat 2% central banking inflation. the whole thing is rigged
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    • all greed from big and small. and capitalism hasn't failed. it can't. it is principle or axiom. A truely morally derived system of equality and freedom.
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    • and with that said shows such little understanding of those who bandwagon to try to debase it. They say things like equality but are never after such a thing.
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    • Just greedily looking for a form of rule or script that give s them the most and call it equality. And the rule maker is through gov. Tariffs, licensing,
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    • anything you can imagine to lobby and give you an edge. Gov doesn't mind. The joke is its not the failure of capitalism
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    • but the gov and individuals within pursuing self interests that try to control capitalism, that they think they know better and probably believe as much
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    • did hitler not have some real belief in killing greedy jews running the capitalist system that benefited only them. was that not his foundation. do you not
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    • see similar tactics used throughout history, always, unfortanetly winning and leading to ruin? It may be humans natural cycle like the seasons
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    • but i'd love to see enough rise and really appreciate the ideals of capitalism and liberty, and not fall back into the endless death and rebirth and prefer my
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    • lifetime is in the "glory" times and not the decline. I dont care if it declines past my time. But I'm greedy and hope and want for the cycle to last
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    • jsut a bit longer and than let everyone else fuck it up
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