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  • Krassy-2

    Socialist Bernie is a millionaire?

    • it was by accidentGnash
    • he wrote a book that sold at least a million copies ... does that mean he should give all that money away to the poor?monospaced
    • https://media0.giphy…PonyBoy
    • yeah, I don't really see how writing a book and selling copies is being greedy, but okay :)monospaced
    • At most it's "off brand" for Sanders. At least he's transparent about it and is releasing 15 years of tax returns on Monday.monospaced
    • but... but... does he really need all that money, mono? 2 Mill could feed a lot of those poor people he's fighting for. (I hope you're detecting my sarcasm) ;)PonyBoy
    • I just can't unsee Larry David
      https://www.youtube.…
      Gnash
    • I don't understand this as a criticism. Of course he's a millionaire. He's been serving in the house + senate since 1990 earning a yearly salary, so what?T-Dawg
    • That somehow makes his consistent policy views irrelevant?T-Dawg
    • If he pays his taxes, he's doing his part, is he not?T-Dawg
    • He's doing his part as a capitalist for sure... but as far as socialism goes he's failing miserably. Does he really need 3 houses?PonyBoy
    • Except he's a social democrat? (not a socialist), but somehow people keep confusing that for the same thing.T-Dawg
    • yes yes... that new phrase / restyling of the word 'socialist' to 'social democrat' is fooling everyone. ;)PonyBoy
    • the policies of a social dems very much mimic that of socialism... of course it's not 100% the same thing but the tone / desire is therePonyBoy
    • all it would take is a quick google on your part to learn there is a huge difference, but if you want to drink the kool-aid, then it's your choice.T-Dawg
    • I know the difference in definition, T—all it takes is a quick look at policies/to listen to the candidates to understand it's nothing more than a play on wordsPonyBoy
    • And to be clear - you can't do what Bern, AOC etc want to do w/out taxing the shit out of the middle class... creating perfect mediocrity / depression for allPonyBoy
    • Anyway... we can toy w/semantics all day long. Truth is Bernie's a bit of a hypocrite if he's taking advantage of capitalism—again—doe... he really need 3 houses?PonyBoy
    • *does he really need 3 houses?PonyBoy
    • I don't see how wanting to adopt policies like other countries who are capitalist, market economies (den., swe etc.), is somehow a play on words for socialism.T-Dawg
    • Owning three houses is irrelevant, Bernie is a supporter of capitalism. There's already a huge bunch of welfare in the US, going to corporations.T-Dawg
    • Social democracy wants that money to go to the population, instead of the multinational corporation.T-Dawg
    • The multinational corporations argue that they should keep that money, and that it will 'trickle down'.T-Dawg
    • agree with ponyboy or be argued with ad nauseum. how lameimbecile
    • you make it seem as if I'm the only one who engages in a conversation here, imbecile...PonyBoy
    • T-Dawg... I'm not against trying any of these policies on a State level. Those Nordic countries are tiny in population compared to the States...PonyBoy
    • ... and aren't nearly as diverse in terms of culture / race which is a factor over here. Also—Nordic middle class pays more in taxes—we will have to do...PonyBoy
    • ... the same. Your average man on the street here in the States has it in mind that they're going to get 'free' things under Bern and have no clue they're...PonyBoy
    • ... up for a tax hike to pay for their 'free' stuff.PonyBoy
    • hehe it's fun to engage a little. I probably agree with PonyBoy on lots of issues, but I recognized a bit of media BS in the original post subject.T-Dawg
    • I love getting into conversation here... always have... just hate when it gets bitter and folks get foul w/each other (something I'm guilty of). <3PonyBoy
    • I think we'll leave it here then! It's been constructive but we've already gone off track and lord knows we don't need another 93 comment politics post.T-Dawg
    • I appreciate the engagement and conversation :)T-Dawg
    • :)PonyBoy
    • Get a room!
      Jk this was a nice ending
      bezoar
    • I'm just curious to see his tax returns so I can see how much of his capitalist money he wants to take from others has he given to the "needy".Boz
    • I'm expecting about 70% since he wants to take that from everyone else.Boz
    • wow, a civil discussion in the comments section of the politics thread? this must be a first! bravo!Krassy
    • Box you show a surprising lack of understanding of how the tax system actually works. Or else you’re just being facetious.monospaced
    • Bernie's desired tax system isn't in play, mono... of course he's being facetious (not that Boz(x) needs my help here)PonyBoy
    • lol you must have really misunderstood me if you thought I was stupid enough to think a senators tax concept is actually in play ffsmonospaced
    • why would you say boz lacked understanding of our tax system when he was talking about Bernie's desired (not real) tax system? Read, mono... you look silly :)PonyBoy
    • He was talking about his actual taxes, and if they would reveal how much he's donated. That's not how it works exactly, but okay, if you want to make things upmonospaced
    • lol ... "you look silly."monospaced
    • even sillier now... keep going though :)PonyBoy
    • the only thing silly here is thinking he should give away all his moneymonospaced
    • he's running again so that he can write another best seller that will make him even richer :pKrassy

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