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    https://redalemeden.com/blog/201…

    "The dominance of Chrome has a major detrimental effect on the Web as an open platform: developers are increasingly shunning other browsers in their testing and bug-fixing routines. If it works as intended on Chrome, it’s ready to ship. This in turn results in more users flocking to the browser as their favorite Web sites and apps no longer work elsewhere, making developers less likely to spend time testing on other browsers. A vicious cycle that, if not broken, will result in most other browsers disappearing in the oblivion of irrelevance. And that’s exactly how you suffocate the open Web."

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    • But, in theory chrome / Firefox use the web standards. That was not the case with ie and safari a few years back...Salarrue
    • Average person doesn't care about any of this, unfortunately. Hopefully people will go to Firefox when Google disables adblockers in chrome.section_014
    • i dumped chrome a while ago for ff. in fact i've pretty much dumped goggle.hans_glib
    • netscape hereGnash
    • this happened with iOS in the beginning, but things eventually evened out with Android, mostlymonospaced
    • I'm using Vivaldi since two days at work, built on Chromium engine. Very nice! All the features from Chrome and Firefox are there. It uses Chromes's addons too.Bennn
    • https://vivaldi.com/…Bennn
    • hans_glib, are you using Gmail?Bennn
    • The sidebar to watch for example Youtube while srufing the web is very nice on VivaldiBennn
    • “Favorite websites no longer work elsewhere”... seems like a stretch. Standardization between browsers is good enough these days that most sitesyuekit
    • that work properly on Chrome will display the same (or almost the same) elsewhere, no?yuekit
    • Anyway there are lots of iOS users out there who will continue to use Safari by default.yuekit
    • there needs to be a standard, so one browser or multiple browsers that work as expected. browser specific fixes shows browsers haven't been sorted correctlyimbecile
    • there are international standards they must all meet, but each one of course has to innovate on top of that, to differentiate and attract usersmonospaced
    • there are only suggestions set by the W3C, if all browsers do not adhere to those, there are not standards. no need to argue.imbecile
    • Thank Zeldman for things being a million times better than they were 10 years ago.
      Personally I rarely notice any major bugs when testing these days.      fadein11
    • Chrome and Safari behave virtually identically.fadein11
    • I wasn't arguing, just saying that they meet a set of standards. Thanks for pointing out they aren't required to adhere (even though they all do). :)monospaced
    • The W3C is the more purist version. There is a second standards group composed of people from the big tech companies which tries to agree how to implement theiryuekit
    • ideas, and it then gets built into the browsers. So at least they try to work together rather than crush their opponents like Microsoft did back in the day.yuekit
    • many js plugins/libraries are shit on safarihotroddy
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