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Indeed, socialism has crippled Venezuela’s once-thriving economy, impoverishing the populace to the point that people are literally starving in the streets. As recently as 2001, Venezuela was the richest country in South America. It sits on an ocean of oil, the world’s largest proven reserves.
Yet today, its people are eating their pets and feeding their children from garbage bins, all as Maduro blocks humanitarian aid shipments intended to alleviate his people’s suffering. On Friday, a woman was killed and a dozen were injured in a deadly clash near the Brazilian border that Maduro has ordered shut.
Young Americans should understand that, contrary to what they’re being told, that is the benevolence of socialism.
Despite this horrifying example of socialism’s destructive impact, socialist ideas are becoming increasingly popular among Democratic politicians right here in America.
Democratic lawmakers such as Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., are actively promoting the sort of policies – from punitive tax rates to government control of huge portions of the economy – that have inflicted immeasurable suffering and led to the downfall of socialist governments around the world for over a century.
The “Green New Deal” alone harkens back to the five-year plans of the totalitarian socialist regimes of the former Soviet Union. To achieve its ends would require a government of immense power, not unlike Venezuela’s, but very different from the limited government our Constitution contemplates. It actually proposes what amounts to a government takeover of massive sectors of our economy including health care, transportation and energy.
We can see the results of government elites rather than free markets controlling the economy in this manner 1,300 miles south of Miami – in Venezuela.
Of course, these radical Democrats in Washington are outraged by President Trump’s tough approach to the Maduro regime, fearing that voters will see the parallels between Venezuelan socialism and the homegrown variety being pushed by the far left. Some Democrats are even claiming that the White House is backing a “coup” in the country as a way to detract from the president’s powerful message of freedom.
“A U.S. backed coup in Venezuela is not a solution to the dire issues they face,” Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., said in a recent tweet. “Trump’s efforts to install a far right opposition will only incite violence and further destabilize the region.”
Of course, the president has never actually suggested staging a coup to oust Maduro; in fact, he’s focused his diplomatic efforts on supporting Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido, who became the country’s legitimate leader after Maduro blatantly rigged his re-election.
Sadly, pro-socialist Democrats have to resort to such obfuscation because the tragedy in Venezuela offers a poignant preview of what they have in store for America if they gain control of the White House.
“Years of socialist rule have brought this once thriving nation to the brink of ruin,” President Trump said during a recent speech in Miami. “Socialism by its very nature does not respect borders. It does not respect the boundaries or the sovereign rights of its citizens or its neighbors. It’s always seeking to expand, to encroach and subjugate others to its will.” President Reagan could not have said it better.
It’s worth noting that standing up to the Maduro regime is not just a moral imperative – it’s also the most prudent geopolitical move that President Trump could make in South America.
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- I think that these "radical Democrats are outraged" over Trump's Looney Tunes policies, the Republican shills in congress and his moronic ideas in general.utopian
- But...long live...radical, right-wing fascism, authoritarian ultranationalism, and dictatorial power.utopian
- fuck this black and white fear mongering look at the world.inteliboy
- what about socialist leaning countries that are doing well? or proven socialist policies in, well, every western country but USA? but but but Venezuela!inteliboy
- inteliboy what socialism is working? take your examples and apply them to the us. hate to say it but no successful method in the small and isolated countries********
- work for us. shit norway is probably the leading example. however they have butter shortages, high alcholism and there wealth is primarily oil based********
- we go EV and norway socialism fails as venezuela. central planned economies are doomed********
- shit i'd say china is the most successful use of state control ever. however talk to the people, see if they feel free, or if they care********
- talk politics with some random people if you will. one thing to there chinas controlling success is the culture. culture being pushed more so now here********
- true, socialism doesn't work. but some aspects can be adapted - ie health care. my point being this narrow minded black or white mindset is dull.inteliboy
- Something like a green new deal will happen anyway, regardless of politics. This stupid left/ right culture war is just getting in the way.Fax_Benson
- omg, the USA isn't just going to turn into a socialist nation, ffsmonospaced
- all we're talking about is how to allocate spending of taxes collected, the process of which is basically pure socialism at workmonospaced
- indeed monofadein11
- This is things like police and fire services, maintenance of roads, and then of course public services, utilities and schools. All purely socialist at core.monospaced
- Beyond that, money is handled at state and local levels, and as a result of that freedom, we cannot by definition become socialist as a single nation.monospaced
- Mono, those services you list are performed by every political state, from monarchies to totalitarian. There is nothing inherently socialist about them.Gnash
- Aside from anarchy and maybe the isis caliphate, I cant think of a single system that doesn’t perform those services.Gnash
- And historically, looking at most true socialist states, those services kinda sucked ass in them.Gnash
- and yet they are still socialist at their core. You can deflect and distract all you want, but that's the reality.formed
- the fear mongering and blatant denial of a logical discourse has to end. Ed, infrastructure, health care are all pathetic in the US and getting worseformed
- How do we fix that? Privatizing has been shown over and over to be far worse than govt run. The discussion should be about solutions, not petty semantics.formed
- Unfortunately, semantics matter. society evolves by having dialogue, and that needs words. The discussion IS about solutions, but there's disagreement.Gnash
- You are obviously convinced that the other guy's solution is the wrong one. You're not asking for a discussion, but for a capitulation.Gnash
- But there is no dialogue according to yourself and newscorps faithful right. It's simply that socialist dems = Venezuela. Zero nuance. No discourse.inteliboy
- in your statement about privatization, the above;ute opposite has been shown to be true in socialist regimes. The complete collapse of industry.Gnash
- *absoluteGnash
- But I do agree that the govt should control certain programs. it generally works pretty well in canada, which isn't a socialist country.Gnash
- @inteliboy, and the reverse is absolutely true as well. if not more so. GOP are all racist nazis. zero nuance as wellGnash
- True. Nobody here says that though.monospaced
- ok im in on socialist medicine. lets open medicare to all and cap it similar to other nations spending around 10-13% GDP. Does that work for the everyone?********
- would anyone for socialized medicine similar to other countries not like that?********
- inteliboy?********
- too bored to catch idiots in the trap. we spend more socially on a small demo. costs are reflected to other smaller politics. non profits, tax codes, admin,********
- lawsuits, patent laws. the argument for better social medicine has nothing to do with social medicine. unless the gov can control wages, and businesses to suit********
- political means. a few things i do is take away non profit status. dont let them roll profits into more expensive infrastructure like valley parking garges********
- or healing gardens or advertising spending and people. treat them as a profitable company. most hospitals have a monopoly and own the local insruance********
- take away any employer based incentives regarding insurance. open all insurances past state lines its just a gamble of info.********
- Fuck the FDA. Let people sell their drugs without approval. Drugs that kill prosecute people. Increase competition, reduce "FDA level security" and lower costs.********
- any insurance writeoff or incentive remove. encourage people to pay directly for care. no one has insurance for their car for life including petro. over insured********
- and totally away from what matters. liek my dentist/opt says, unless someone else covers it its not worth it, and if they do they take me to town on everything********
- maximize profits. the real issue is people are to stupid to know what matters or how things work********
- education in the us can be scrapped. let people decide education. our current progress has been weak to chinas shaming culture.********
- here its more daycare. parents dont give shit, nor kids. the fact based curriculum odes little and weak social engineering of follow the leader********
- one thing that made america great was its independent nature and entrepreneurship. most kids had careers before college age in many now degree areas.********
- not controlled or decided and no easy monetary loans to go forth. also a reason higher edu was better before gov backed loans********
- basically everything ppl want minor "socialism" to fix was created by minor socialism and gov rules. its a sad joke********
- Not like free markets created high edu costs or health insurance. that has never been the argument ever********
- framed in any way holding those responsible not guilty to maximize more of the same control causing the problems. advertising 101********
- wow no one wanting to open medicare to all and capping at current % of GDP and cheering for socialized medicine that spends more than everyone?********
- Hmm perhaps what they want they have no idea about.... ignorance is bliss********