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    New research on nearly 2 million Uber drivers finds a gender earnings gap of 7% even in the complete absence of gender discrimination


    The uniqueness of our data—knowing exactly the production and compensation functions—permits us to completely unpack the underlying determinants of the gender earnings gap.

    We find that the entire gender gap is caused by three factors:

    a) experience on the platform (learning-by-doing),
    b) preferences over where/when to work, and
    c) preferences for driving speed.

    This suggests that, as the gig economy grows and brings more flexibility in employment, women’s relatively high opportunity cost of non-paid-work time and gender-based preference differences can perpetuate a gender earnings gap even in the absence of discrimination.

    • TL;DR: pay gap has nothing to do with gender discrimination and everything to do with gender differences in work preferences and experienceGnash
    • 7%-? ok.
      It would be a statistical miracle if there was a 0% difference....
    • ^ not if we are all the sameGnash
    • but we're not, and never will be, and anyone who says otherwise is a moronset
    • ay, there's the rubGnash
    • so gender pay gap is not based on discrimination in the taxi sector. wow, mind blown.fadein11
    • https://media.giphy.…fadein11
    • ah, the whingey mewlings of one who misses the point. blessGnash
    • ... againGnash
    • Oh I got the point, just not sure why you are making it (again).fadein11
    • Please explain the point of the post if I have missed it, I am only going on what you cut and pasted? Really, please explain. Educate mefadein11
    • and that was non-sarcastic, genuinely want to know what you have gleaned from this, please.fadein11
    • lol Gnash is your new me, isn't he, fade? Gnash and I seem to agree on a lot, so no surprise I guess. Fade, you always call me a troll but you love the conflictset
    • Love itset
    • I have never called you a troll, ever. An arrogant cunt a lot of the time but "it's all a persona" as you say. Yes I do challenge gnash on his views, he seemsfadein11
    • that's what you always say "oh i got the point..." - dumbing it down further doesn't seem to make a diff in the end.Gnash
    • fixated with certain issues. I am genuinely interested in what he has to say, it's clearly something he is passionate about. This just seemed v.obvious to me.fadein11
    • This place has challenged me many times over the past few years, questioned a lot of what I took for granted recently. So please don't call me a troll. I wantfadein11
    • to learn.fadein11
    • read the study or retreat back to your comfort zone. up to you.Gnash
    • and let's not dredge up old past, I like you when you are not bandstanding.fadein11
    • no you give me your black and white TL/DR assumption of an issue based on one study of one sector of work, or alternatively enlighten me with some detail pleasefadein11
    • (that TL:DR is a direct quote from one of the women scientists who did the study)Gnash
    • lol... You've called me a troll on many an occasion, you nutterset
    • Okay - so that was just referring to Uber? Obviously. Always use quotes to clarify. So what have you gleaned about uber and the taxi sector? That discriminationfadein11
    • I see you poking and prodding Gnash on a fairly consistent basis. Very similarly to how you did to me. If that's not trolling, I don't know what is...set
    • on pay does not exist? Please explain. What was the point you were making by posting? A finding on Uber or a more general point?fadein11
    • I disagreew ith gnash often yes, Set, jesus is this a place where we all agree now? That's not trolling. I will always question what I consider dubiousfadein11
    • attitudes yep. What the fuck are on about, trolling?fadein11
    • You are causing issues agin with me here. You are the most antagonistic man on QBN. I have watched at least major embarrassing arguments you have had withfadein11
    • people in the last 2 weeks. It was quite refreshing to see it wasn't just me after I backed off for a good while.fadein11
    • He's not trolling, he's asking a question and Gnash is getting uppity. Then you joined in. Now I've joined in.Fax_Benson
    • Anyway, back off, so I can read gnash's is reply uninterrupted.fadein11
    • Soon robo will arrive with a non-sequitur about SwedenFax_Benson
    • Your manner of communication is incredibly argumentative. it's bait. And I just find it rather humorous watching you do it to others.set
    • at least 3*fadein11
    • Especially when you always projected it on to me, and that you were doing the planet justice by responding to me :'Dset
    • "Your manner of communication is incredibly argumentative" Set, 2018
      Gotta be a meme in this. Are you for fucking real lol?
    • I'd say Gnash is one of the most reasonable, rational, intelligent and eloquent members here. No wonder you're at odds with him constantly. =Pset
    • no you acted like a cunt every day and I picked you up on it, like others do here. you are projecting your own "persona" onto me here.fadein11
    • You do realise that by mean saying that your manner of communication is argumentative, that doesn't mean I'm saying mine isn't... ?set
    • This place was never a bed of roses and nor should it be. But to be called a troll for taking a dislike to certain views/people is ridiculous. you sound like afadein11
    • big wet snowflake.fadein11
    • You are capable of computing this, yes?set
    • gnash is clearly intelligent but that doesn't mean you have to agree with him you fucking idiot.fadein11
    • anyway, back to business. whats gnahs got to say on his mindblowing uber pay gap post?fadein11
    • You pounce on Gnash every opportunity you get. It's humourous. And obviously hits a nerve because you're so damn defensive about it, haha.set
    • "gnash is clearly intelligent but that doesn't mean you have to agree with him you fucking idiot." Um? lol, only an idiot would make this bizarre logic.set
    • I never suggested anything of the sort...set
    • not rdefensive really, but it obviously bothers you lol. I was talking to him not you. Is he old enough to speak for himself you prize pratt.fadein11
    • I already said, it amuses me...set
    • I'm not speaking for Gnash, I'm telling you, from me, that you're funny.set
    • still waiting for an answer to my original post. you said I prod gnash, yes thats because i often find his posts odd. so I dont agree with him. No idiocy therefadein11
    • I never claim not to be argumentative. What's funny is you always shout that label at me, yet you're incredibly argumentative in your style, yourself. A prodderset
    • comment*fadein11
    • The difference is, I'm not blissfully and self aggrandising ignorant to it :)set
    • clearly nothing to glean from it anyway as I suspected. No gender pay discrimination in the taxi sector. WOW.fadein11
    • *lyset
    • eh? but I am not talking about that, you have digressed, I just want to understand the point in why gnash found this interesting/posted it.fadein11
    • article*fadein11
    • Yea but I'm talking about thatset
    • He tends to focus on a v.small part of a big issue, usually focussing on the outer limit ridiculous examples of it to make a point on the broader subject. Whichfadein11
    • I find absurd. But I still would like to know what the point was here? Educate me guys, make my "small brain" bigger.fadein11
    • It's quite clear to me he's just having fun with it. Why do you take it upon yourself to save planet earth by pointing out his humour as something unacceptable?set
    • It's also pretty fucking obvious that his point was that we're not all the same, and never will be.... and that's ok.set
    • What's your point, exactly?set
    • oh it's humour, has he got an online "persona" like you lol. A bit sad really. And please don't think any of this shit bothers me once I have left the computer.fadein11
    • lol, I don't know why you have to get so petty and personal.set
    • I would advise him to not give up the dayjob if he found this post amusing.fadein11
    • Typing shit on the internet that amuses you is far sadder than saving planet earth by being Captain SJW and correcting all the wrong doers.... ? heheset
    • I am not trying to do that lol. how would typing shit on QBN save anything. If anything he is doing that in his own way by posting his endless anti feministfadein11
    • drivel. I am just quite bored by it. Saving the planet lol. You are like a meme factory today.fadein11
    • When did I get personal? How could my "small brain" as you put it so often possibly manage to get personal lol.fadein11
    • Still waiting for the point I missed in this mindblowing post.fadein11
    • lol I wish you made sense, we could actually have a proper conversation.set
    • And this is why no one will want to meet us in real life.detritus
    • lol detfadein11
    • ironically it would all be fine in real life, I am v.easy to get along with.fadein11
    • I arranged and attended more qbn london drinks years ago than anyone else, I reckon. We had lots of fun. I'm sure we'd all get on over a beer. Really...set
    • Might get a bit tedious having to constantly explain things to fadein, but other than that I'm sure you'd all be lovely, you big loveliesset
    • I half expected to get lynched at the first qbn drinksset
    • lolGnash
    • Hi :-) Did you manage to work out the point to this piece Fade? Should I keep my Uber app in solidarity to men, their work ethic, speed and enthusiasmIanbolton
    • Lol, do it! Go men!fadein11
    • This has nothing to do with solidarity for men, you strange, easily offended oddballs. It's just an interesting data point.set
    • He was joking Set. And so was I. Fascinating data about how men and women approach taxi driving. Mind blowing :)fadein11
    • You literally sound mentally illset
    • literally lolfadein11

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