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    I don't like Corbyn and what he represents but after the election I thought I should give him some time to see if some of the optimism he's undoubtedly generated would rub off on me. That last a couple of days.

    Look at their behaviour since the tower block tragedy. McDonnell said he wants 1m people out on the streets to force May out of office. Less than a week after she won a democratic election. Less than 2 days after the tower block tragedy. And he called on unions to make it happen. Unions that they control - not for the people that need them but for the Left elite. They're calling for people's property to be requisitioned to house those made homeless. Even though the gvnmt has already said people will be re-homed. Even though it would take too long and cost too much and be a legal minefield.

    How does forcing a wealthy person to give up a property solve any of the issues? (And guess which kind of wealthy peoples' homes they mean - it isn't Len Mcluskey's penthouse or John Lansman's property portfolio). It sounds good, though. It resonates. So they say it anyway, even though they know it won't work. It's almost as if it's a stunt to deliberately stoke resentment between people in the same borough. It's dangerous. McDonnell wants societal collapse + class war because it's the ideal ground on which to indoctrinate people to the left. He's said as much.

    They're using the poor as a weapon to start a class war. That's their aim.This isn't new and fair politics. It's actually dangerous. It's going to be scorching hot in London this weekend. And inner-London boroughs are angry. There's no government. And the hard left want to stoke things up.

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    • https://twitter.com/…Bluejam
    • London Riots 2.0 this weekend?detritus
    • May's not doing much better either ...Bluejam
    • http://www.independe…Bluejam
    • Except they are doing this for the good of the people, not the rich elite.Chimp
    • +1 bluejamset
    • he can taste power, and wants to get there at any cost. exploit the dispossessed as cannon-fodder - and the images of them being beaten down will fuel the firehans_glib
    • @det: i think it's 3.0, or maybe even 4?hans_glib
    • and i still can't believe that May failed to spend any time with the community when she visited the scene ..."Forward together?"
      http://bit.ly/2sixBZ…      Bluejam
    • forget the semantics of what he said. He knows how that will be interpreted.Fax_Benson
    • She didn't "win" enough to be in power.microkorg
    • oh come on - you sound like the BBC. Read between the lines a little.fadein11
    • It's not their aim at all - you are being mega cynical. It's about a fairer society - whether that works or not is another matter. Study his career - it's neverfadein11
    • been about personal gain. And he is 'accidentally' the Labour leader and potential PM - he never wanted it. It was simply his turn to represent the left of thefadein11
    • party as all others had had their chance and failed. I am not a huge fan of him for a number of reasons but not what you mention here.fadein11
    • lol @ class war. It's about fairer distrubution of wealth and an end to austerity which has totally failed.fadein11
    • sorry fadein but I genuinely think that it's you who needs to look a little deeper. not intending to troll or patronise - we've both been thereFax_Benson
    • I have dug deeper - I wasn't a fan at all - he has grown on me. His career is proof. Never swayed on principles, never been for personal gain. My issue is thatfadein11
    • hard left never sway on principles. that's the problem. it's dogma. and because it's 'left' it's righteous.Fax_Benson
    • ...breaking down the existing econimic/elite power structures will be way harder than preaching to the already converted at a rally. It all seems too good to befadein11
    • true and prob will be. But that manifesto was a good manifesto and I do think he is genuine. His track record and the fact he never sought the attention/powerfadein11
    • in the 1st place are v.good signs. At worst we now have a strong opposition who are v.different to those in power - which is healthy.fadein11
    • You don't seem to like the left or the right - are you on the fence or a neoliberal. Confused.fadein11
    • I'm instinctively left but sick of it.Fax_Benson
    • Same and I am not trying to troll either I just don't understand why you think it is an attempt at a far left takeover of UK. It's all quite moderate.fadein11
    • I to have concerns about a militant left-wing causing a backlash. But we are already living in a class war. What happened this week lays it out bare.monoboy
    • Also, did they actually say they would 'repatriate' the empty homes of rich folks for poor folks? Or 'could'? Or at all?monoboy
    • The BBC have turned on May, her party already have. Sending out Leadsome to face the cameras. CCHQ are in GE campaign mode again already.monoboy
    • Troubling times. I long for common sense but get the feeling this is going to kick-off badly. If Labour get left holding the Brexit baby, I hope to god they...monoboy
    • find a way to turn opinion against it. Otherwise, they'll end up carrying the can for the shit storm on the way. High interest rates, low-wage, business exodus.monoboy
    • yepfadein11
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